4 Foot Roof? What design would you use? - Cannabis-World

outdoordreams · 02-03-2012, 09:52 PM

Hello everyone, a friend wants to start an operation in his basement. 4ft ceilings. With lots of square footage. Humid basement. Humid climate location.

I was thinking a coliseum design. Using Koots design in the Vert section.
But that does not give him easy options to automate watering. 4foot ceilings, no one want to crawl around that more than required.

What designs would you recommend?

thanks in advance.........all advice welcome
peace odd

c-ray · 02-03-2012, 10:39 PM

does it have a concrete floor?

outdoordreams · 02-03-2012, 10:54 PM

I believe it was just a dirt floor covered by plastic.

Are you thinking of digging?
I will double check with him tonight about that question.

spaceman · 02-03-2012, 10:55 PM

probably some sort of flood table,if you cant dig it out. and do strains that can flower and stretch in 12/12 from small cutt...

outdoordreams · 02-03-2012, 11:00 PM

Maybe 600watts instead of 1000s.

What about feeding. The ideal soil sounds easy to me, but will a new grower be able to have success with it?

Vapor, are you talking about something like sweetskunk? Or something a little shorter?

c-ray · 02-03-2012, 11:03 PM

fill flood tables with soillless mix and lots of cuts so guy only has to water the tables instead of individual pots, mylar the ceiling and use it as a reflector

c-ray · 02-03-2012, 11:05 PM

the ideal soil is easier, I would say, all guy has to do is water @ pH 6.2

spaceman · 02-03-2012, 11:26 PM

sweetskunk would be a good candidate. some things that has alot of stretch and will build some honking nugs, aswell plants like that usually are a bit heavier in the feed depo, so they would be better for a bed method me thinks{more likely to use up everything}.
the ideal soil would be fine for something like that, it may take a run or two to dial the spacing and amount of soil for your root system etc.But would be easy if you gave some guidance to them along the way.

outdoordreams · 02-03-2012, 11:27 PM

So we could make him tables out of 2 x 6 and poly. Is 6inchs deep enough? could go with 2x10 or double up and use 2 2x 6's.

So these table would not have to drain, correct?

spaceman · 02-03-2012, 11:45 PM

make them big enough so each plant has a certain amount of medium per light. that gives you a guideline of sorts. It dont need to drain if you are careful, but a drain option would be a great asset.

c-ray · 02-04-2012, 03:39 AM

you could put a drain hole on the side 1/2 inch from the bottom as a safety measure

spaceman · 02-04-2012, 04:03 AM

maybe try 3 gallons per plant...10 day veg and flipp//

outdoordreams · 02-07-2012, 06:42 PM

So they are dirt floors. Sandy material.

Can we dig out a 5 foot trench and line it with plastic and put the dirt in there?
A couple of drain holes into the sandy below.
Buddy was hoping to only dig a two foot trench, but I suggested he go the full 5 feet.
Can he get away with 2-3-4 foot trench? He can go two feet down, and bend plants I guess.

Peace odd

spaceman · 02-07-2012, 08:15 PM

i wonder where the ground water line is?

outdoordreams · 02-07-2012, 08:44 PM

He is on a hill in a valley, so I think he should be ok there.

Springs · 02-07-2012, 09:52 PM

I think I would go for straight vert over coli's with the limited height.

DOZEE · 02-08-2012, 09:57 PM

Can you dig? I would make holes for pots to fit in .. so you can get a lil more grow space that way..

outdoordreams · 03-22-2012, 06:59 AM

So we got this guy going. ill try to take some pictures.
Started with 2 -600watt digital ballasts. Carbon Filter exhaust.
5foot by 10foot bed. Filled 5-6inchs with pro-mix. Feeding some chemical fert program.
We planted the 50 clones and lost about 8 or so plants. So we are bending the plants into the open spaces and should be flowering tommorow.

Buddy seems like he has what is takes to grow the herb. Doing a good job so far.
Thanks for everyones input.
This website is a great.

Peace odd

dusty · 08-01-2012, 05:46 PM

i woulda used T5s and raised beds and a shit load of plants and some kind of shrubbler or dripper system to water

02-03-2012, 09:52 PM	#1
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	4 Foot Roof? What design would you use? Hello everyone, a friend wants to start an operation in his basement. 4ft ceilings. With lots of square footage. Humid basement. Humid climate location. I was thinking a coliseum design. Using Koots design in the Vert section. But that does not give him easy options to automate watering. 4foot ceilings, no one want to crawl around that more than required. What designs would you recommend? thanks in advance.........all advice welcome peace odd

02-03-2012, 10:39 PM	#2
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	does it have a concrete floor?
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

02-03-2012, 10:55 PM	#4
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,096	probably some sort of flood table,if you cant dig it out. and do strains that can flower and stretch in 12/12 from small cutt...
	The places in between

02-03-2012, 11:03 PM	#6
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	fill flood tables with soillless mix and lots of cuts so guy only has to water the tables instead of individual pots, mylar the ceiling and use it as a reflector
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

02-03-2012, 11:05 PM	#7
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	the ideal soil is easier, I would say, all guy has to do is water @ pH 6.2
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

02-03-2012, 10:54 PM	#3
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	I believe it was just a dirt floor covered by plastic. Are you thinking of digging? I will double check with him tonight about that question.

02-03-2012, 11:00 PM	#5
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	Maybe 600watts instead of 1000s. What about feeding. The ideal soil sounds easy to me, but will a new grower be able to have success with it? Vapor, are you talking about something like sweetskunk? Or something a little shorter?

02-03-2012, 11:26 PM	#8
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,096	sweetskunk would be a good candidate. some things that has alot of stretch and will build some honking nugs, aswell plants like that usually are a bit heavier in the feed depo, so they would be better for a bed method me thinks{more likely to use up everything}. the ideal soil would be fine for something like that, it may take a run or two to dial the spacing and amount of soil for your root system etc.But would be easy if you gave some guidance to them along the way.
	The places in between

02-03-2012, 11:27 PM	#9
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	So we could make him tables out of 2 x 6 and poly. Is 6inchs deep enough? could go with 2x10 or double up and use 2 2x 6's. So these table would not have to drain, correct?

02-03-2012, 11:45 PM	#10
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,096	make them big enough so each plant has a certain amount of medium per light. that gives you a guideline of sorts. It dont need to drain if you are careful, but a drain option would be a great asset.
	The places in between

02-04-2012, 03:39 AM	#11
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	you could put a drain hole on the side 1/2 inch from the bottom as a safety measure
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

02-04-2012, 04:03 AM	#12
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,096	maybe try 3 gallons per plant...10 day veg and flipp//
	The places in between

02-07-2012, 06:42 PM	#13
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	So they are dirt floors. Sandy material. Can we dig out a 5 foot trench and line it with plastic and put the dirt in there? A couple of drain holes into the sandy below. Buddy was hoping to only dig a two foot trench, but I suggested he go the full 5 feet. Can he get away with 2-3-4 foot trench? He can go two feet down, and bend plants I guess. Peace odd

02-07-2012, 08:15 PM	#14
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,096	i wonder where the ground water line is?
	The places in between

02-07-2012, 08:44 PM	#15
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	He is on a hill in a valley, so I think he should be ok there.

02-08-2012, 09:57 PM	#17
DOZEE Idle no more Join Date: May 2006 Location: The field of infinite possibility's Posts: 1,425 Favorites: Diesel,bubba's kush,green crack,cheese,og's,durban	Can you dig? I would make holes for pots to fit in .. so you can get a lil more grow space that way..
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02-07-2012, 09:52 PM	#16
Springs Fall Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,017 Favorites: sherpa weed	I think I would go for straight vert over coli's with the limited height.
	" Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza."

03-22-2012, 06:59 AM	#18
outdoordreams student of herb Join Date: May 2006 Location: Under THE Mountain BC Posts: 1,756 Favorites: WattyKush, Sweetskunk, God Bud, Rene, Seedsmans Haze	So we got this guy going. ill try to take some pictures. Started with 2 -600watt digital ballasts. Carbon Filter exhaust. 5foot by 10foot bed. Filled 5-6inchs with pro-mix. Feeding some chemical fert program. We planted the 50 clones and lost about 8 or so plants. So we are bending the plants into the open spaces and should be flowering tommorow. Buddy seems like he has what is takes to grow the herb. Doing a good job so far. Thanks for everyones input. This website is a great. Peace odd

08-01-2012, 05:46 PM	#19
dusty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Trinity Posts: 157 Favorites: malawi, bomb threat, tk , sfv x chem d	i woulda used T5s and raised beds and a shit load of plants and some kind of shrubbler or dripper system to water

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