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c-ray · 01-06-2011, 11:02 PM

pasteurized or raw milk?

otto · 01-06-2011, 11:08 PM

"Basically, any kind of milk can be used, even skim milk."

That's the very last line in the article........

GoKart Motzart · 01-06-2011, 11:16 PM

cool otto man! can you post the link to the article?!

spaceman · 01-06-2011, 11:18 PM

thing is after 6 weeks of flower i cant spray anything the buds are to big so if it is weekly will not work for longer flowering sativas.,.

otto · 01-06-2011, 11:28 PM

http://www.pioneerthinking.com/tv-mildew.html

memyselfandi · 01-08-2011, 03:04 AM

Quote:

"Basically, any kind of milk can be used, even skim milk."

skim milk is better, i don't like the fat left on the leaves. I haven't test it yet but i have been told that Lacto Bacilli works great

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=96325

spaceman · 01-08-2011, 08:40 AM

so i could add some powder milk into me tea eh.,.

otto · 01-08-2011, 07:51 PM

ahahahah! yea Vap make a milkshake and some chocolate cake, and for breakfast just break some eggs into the dirt and giver a good protein boost......

Lacto baccilli I'm sure would do a fine job, but there is no need to "add" anything if the mix your using is alive.........i just can't stress the use of good quality compost enough......i'm almost at the point where I'm just gonna start growing plants in straight compost.....it has every good culture we could possibly ever add already in there........it's like taking vitamin suppliments instead of just eating right in the first place...........also.....I picked up this tidbit from a farmer in alaska.........

take one cup mature compost........bubble in a gallon of water for 24 hrs........long enough to see a visible head on it like a beer........pour over your plants in veg so the tea coats the stock and leaves.........it creates a coating something similar to what coats our teeth when we eat cheese protecting it from bug infestations and fungus problems at the same time boosting it's immunity power..........do that PLUS a good amount of compost in the mix.........seems logical......

otto · 01-08-2011, 07:59 PM

don't get yer panties in a knot about the small details he is trying to sell his tea mixture......the sun never goes down in summer.....

My guess is his "special ingredients" are kelp and rock dusts for mineralization and micro action......just a guess...

spaceman · 01-08-2011, 08:36 PM

ok we will try the biofilm.,.,

GoKart Motzart · 01-09-2011, 09:43 PM

gotta love the tea! just brewed up a nice fresh batch for the first time in months..ahh Feels good! thanks for the link the the milk article otto.

otto · 01-21-2011, 03:54 AM

your welcome

.........so here is another tibit of info I just happened to stumble across.....:

Elemental sulfur is one of the oldest fungicides and pesticides. Dusting sulfur, elemental sulfur in powdered form, is a common fungicide for grapes, strawberry, many vegetables and several other crops. It has a good efficacy against a wide range of powdery mildew diseases as well as black spot. In organic production, sulfur is the most important fungicide. It is the only fungicide used in organically farmed apple production against the main disease apple scab under colder conditions. Biosulfur (biologically produced elemental sulfur with hydrophilic characteristics) can be used well for these applications.

Standard-formulation dusting sulfur is applied to crops with a sulfur duster or from a dusting plane. Wettable sulfur is the commercial name for dusting sulfur formulated with additional ingredients to make it water miscible.[36] It has similar applications, and is used as a fungicide against mildew and other mold-related problems with plants and soil.

Sulfur is also used as an "organic" (i.e. "green") insecticide (actually an acaricide) against ticks and mites. A common method of use is to dust clothing or limbs with sulfur powder. Some livestock owners set out a sulfur salt block as a salt lick

otto · 01-21-2011, 04:00 AM

looking back on this thread it's mentioned a couple of times but whatever, first thing I thought of was epsom salts.......i'm pretty interested in the seawater approach........milk too.......sulfer, seawater and milk.....my experiment senses are tingling .....

c-ray · 01-21-2011, 04:12 AM

I just got some serenade and used it a couple times @ 20ml/litre, ..first blast didn't get everything so we'll see in a couple days how the second spraying did

about sulfur I just made some EM fermented green cabbage and am going to try the liquid as a pm spray since cabbage is pretty high in sulfur

spaceman · 01-21-2011, 05:45 AM

you ever smoked buds sprayed with sulfur to late?

c-ray · 01-21-2011, 06:48 AM

mmmm matchsticks

Green Supreme · 01-21-2011, 07:01 AM

Ruins the bubble too, ack. Peace GS

otto · 01-21-2011, 05:35 PM

yuck......I was thinking more along the lines of using epsom salts somehow as they are a great source of sulfur......in a tea or foliar or something like that........

otto · 01-28-2011, 03:47 AM

So I tried out a 90% water 10% milk spray...after 24 hrs I sprayed them again with a castings/kelp tea to wash the milk off....thought it would be a logical thing to do...it stopped the PM in its tracks.......3 days later.....I don't even see the pm patches that were forming.......I'm not sure how well this will work for a more advanced problem......but it works without any negative affects, so far.........

otto · 02-09-2011, 12:30 AM

.......I've been spraying once a week with 10% milk 90% water without washing it off the next day like I did the first time with excellent results, Not only that, but my extensive research on the subject of spraying milk onto budding flowers has resulted in learning from agro scientists experimenting with the milk method that it actually increases trich production........

otto · 02-09-2011, 05:33 PM

Vapor brought up a great point, milk is probably good for an 8 week strain to keep it under control until harvest, but as for a 12 or 14 week or longer.........hmmmm........any thoughts?

c-ray · 02-09-2011, 07:36 PM

kefir?

spaceman · 02-09-2011, 08:10 PM

neem seed cake in the soil cray is trying that one.,.,

otto · 02-18-2011, 06:01 PM

each time I spray with milk, the pm takes longer to recover and get going again, I figure if you play your timing right during veg and early flower and spray every few days, it might build up and carry you through the last 6 weeks without spraying, after spraying every week for a few weeks now, I only find patches of pm on fans that are hiding in the shadows.......the dark side of the room......

dusty · 02-18-2011, 06:57 PM

i really like oxidate. it works bomb.

http://cdn.arbico-organics.com/downl..._spec_msds.pdf

c-ray · 02-18-2011, 08:23 PM

^ that's food grade h202

01-06-2011, 11:02 PM	#53
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	pasteurized or raw milk?
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

01-06-2011, 11:18 PM	#56
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,099	thing is after 6 weeks of flower i cant spray anything the buds are to big so if it is weekly will not work for longer flowering sativas.,.
	The places in between

01-08-2011, 08:40 AM	#59
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,099	so i could add some powder milk into me tea eh.,.
	The places in between

01-08-2011, 08:36 PM	#62
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,099	ok we will try the biofilm.,.,
	The places in between

01-21-2011, 04:12 AM	#66
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	I just got some serenade and used it a couple times @ 20ml/litre, ..first blast didn't get everything so we'll see in a couple days how the second spraying did about sulfur I just made some EM fermented green cabbage and am going to try the liquid as a pm spray since cabbage is pretty high in sulfur
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

01-06-2011, 11:08 PM	#54
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	"Basically, any kind of milk can be used, even skim milk." That's the very last line in the article........

01-06-2011, 11:16 PM	#55
GoKart Motzart checking out the weather Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Planet Ganjaville Posts: 483	cool otto man! can you post the link to the article?!

01-06-2011, 11:28 PM	#57
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	http://www.pioneerthinking.com/tv-mildew.html

01-08-2011, 03:04 AM	#58
memyselfandi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 249	Quote: "Basically, any kind of milk can be used, even skim milk." skim milk is better, i don't like the fat left on the leaves. I haven't test it yet but i have been told that Lacto Bacilli works great http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=96325

01-08-2011, 07:51 PM	#60
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	ahahahah! yea Vap make a milkshake and some chocolate cake, and for breakfast just break some eggs into the dirt and giver a good protein boost...... Lacto baccilli I'm sure would do a fine job, but there is no need to "add" anything if the mix your using is alive.........i just can't stress the use of good quality compost enough......i'm almost at the point where I'm just gonna start growing plants in straight compost.....it has every good culture we could possibly ever add already in there........it's like taking vitamin suppliments instead of just eating right in the first place...........also.....I picked up this tidbit from a farmer in alaska......... take one cup mature compost........bubble in a gallon of water for 24 hrs........long enough to see a visible head on it like a beer........pour over your plants in veg so the tea coats the stock and leaves.........it creates a coating something similar to what coats our teeth when we eat cheese protecting it from bug infestations and fungus problems at the same time boosting it's immunity power..........do that PLUS a good amount of compost in the mix.........seems logical......

01-08-2011, 07:59 PM	#61
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	don't get yer panties in a knot about the small details he is trying to sell his tea mixture......the sun never goes down in summer..... My guess is his "special ingredients" are kelp and rock dusts for mineralization and micro action......just a guess...

01-09-2011, 09:43 PM	#63
GoKart Motzart checking out the weather Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Planet Ganjaville Posts: 483	gotta love the tea! just brewed up a nice fresh batch for the first time in months..ahh Feels good! thanks for the link the the milk article otto.

01-21-2011, 03:54 AM	#64
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	your welcome .........so here is another tibit of info I just happened to stumble across.....: Elemental sulfur is one of the oldest fungicides and pesticides. Dusting sulfur, elemental sulfur in powdered form, is a common fungicide for grapes, strawberry, many vegetables and several other crops. It has a good efficacy against a wide range of powdery mildew diseases as well as black spot. In organic production, sulfur is the most important fungicide. It is the only fungicide used in organically farmed apple production against the main disease apple scab under colder conditions. Biosulfur (biologically produced elemental sulfur with hydrophilic characteristics) can be used well for these applications. Standard-formulation dusting sulfur is applied to crops with a sulfur duster or from a dusting plane. Wettable sulfur is the commercial name for dusting sulfur formulated with additional ingredients to make it water miscible.[36] It has similar applications, and is used as a fungicide against mildew and other mold-related problems with plants and soil. Sulfur is also used as an "organic" (i.e. "green") insecticide (actually an acaricide) against ticks and mites. A common method of use is to dust clothing or limbs with sulfur powder. Some livestock owners set out a sulfur salt block as a salt lick

01-21-2011, 04:00 AM	#65
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	looking back on this thread it's mentioned a couple of times but whatever, first thing I thought of was epsom salts.......i'm pretty interested in the seawater approach........milk too.......sulfer, seawater and milk.....my experiment senses are tingling .....

01-21-2011, 05:45 AM	#67
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,099	you ever smoked buds sprayed with sulfur to late?
	The places in between

01-21-2011, 06:48 AM	#68
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	mmmm matchsticks
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

01-21-2011, 07:01 AM	#69
Green Supreme Plant Manager Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: heaven,B.C. Canada Posts: 15,880 Favorites: congolese,sweet skunk,krush,Special K and Vision Thai	Ruins the bubble too, ack. Peace GS
	Nobody wants to plant the corn,everybody wants to raid the barn.

01-21-2011, 05:35 PM	#70
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	yuck......I was thinking more along the lines of using epsom salts somehow as they are a great source of sulfur......in a tea or foliar or something like that........

01-28-2011, 03:47 AM	#71
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	So I tried out a 90% water 10% milk spray...after 24 hrs I sprayed them again with a castings/kelp tea to wash the milk off....thought it would be a logical thing to do...it stopped the PM in its tracks.......3 days later.....I don't even see the pm patches that were forming.......I'm not sure how well this will work for a more advanced problem......but it works without any negative affects, so far.........

02-09-2011, 12:30 AM	#72
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	.......I've been spraying once a week with 10% milk 90% water without washing it off the next day like I did the first time with excellent results, Not only that, but my extensive research on the subject of spraying milk onto budding flowers has resulted in learning from agro scientists experimenting with the milk method that it actually increases trich production........ Last edited by otto; 02-10-2011 at 05:57 PM. Reason: too cocky

02-09-2011, 05:33 PM	#73
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	Vapor brought up a great point, milk is probably good for an 8 week strain to keep it under control until harvest, but as for a 12 or 14 week or longer.........hmmmm........any thoughts?

02-09-2011, 07:36 PM	#74
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	kefir?
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

02-09-2011, 08:10 PM	#75
spaceman Civilized worm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,099	neem seed cake in the soil cray is trying that one.,.,
	The places in between

02-18-2011, 06:01 PM	#76
otto Perfect Isolation Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 189	each time I spray with milk, the pm takes longer to recover and get going again, I figure if you play your timing right during veg and early flower and spray every few days, it might build up and carry you through the last 6 weeks without spraying, after spraying every week for a few weeks now, I only find patches of pm on fans that are hiding in the shadows.......the dark side of the room......

02-18-2011, 06:57 PM	#77
dusty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Trinity Posts: 157 Favorites: malawi, bomb threat, tk , sfv x chem d	i really like oxidate. it works bomb. http://cdn.arbico-organics.com/downl..._spec_msds.pdf

02-18-2011, 08:23 PM	#78
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,770 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	^ that's food grade h202
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

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