ideas for me...anyone?

[orion0012]

ok ive been reading and reading on here and its been very informative. But i think i need to give all my info for a proper response from you guys so here goes....5x4 room with mylar on walls. 600 hps. flood and drain. 4' of space from light to flood table[have a seperate room for veg under floros] temps are 77 to 80 with light on and 70 with light off. rez temps are 70. 3x3 flood table with 18 gal rez.osilating tower fan and a good 400 cfm exaust fan running the aircooled light. using floranova grow and bloom for veg and bloom. in the veg room i have a drip system using rockwool. start seed/clones in 1.5 inch rockwool and then transfer them into 4x4 rockwool when they are rdy[this might be bad ?]. And then when they are rdy for flower i just put the 4x4s in the table full of hydroton[yes im switching to pots in the table]...so my questions are...1 im new with floranova what is a good feed program in veg with the floranova grow?...2 should i ditch the 4x4 rockwool and if so what size pots for veg then for bloom?....3 with my setup [switching to pots]what is the most productive/yielding way of configuring the table? 4 big plants 8-9 smaller ones or a bunch of popsicles?...4 is there anything you guys can think of that im not?......sry for all the stupid questions but im a med patient in norcal here and am just fascinated with all your knowledge and i want my grows to be good like all of yours thx for the help and pls feel free to throw in anything you guys would do different.....lets get me up and goin here fellas..lol thx again

[Lungus]

Seeing as you only have 4' of headspace and 600W bulb that penetrates about a foot and a half, I would go the SOG route, planting the clones 6-8" apart. If the plants your running are stretchy, veg them a few days and trigger them when they are 4-6" tall. If they don't stretch much grow them a foot tall and then trigger them, but that's only my opinion.

Hey O0012,

I would like to help you but honestly I get really confused and it's hard to pick apart posts when they don't have paragraphs, or at least an attempt at sentence structure. I'm not trying to be lame or a jerk but it is hard to read your post. You are not the only one, there are many members who have started posting in one big paragraph. And while I would like to help I can't because the huge paragraph...

But please don't think I'm some grammer miser or something, I have very poor grammer and spelling and sentence structure but that's more so my real writing sytle isn't known...this is to increase my anonymity as 3 letter agencies can use software to compare writing sytle, word usage, etc to a person even...

If I didn't mung my real writing style and some well equip LEA compared Gojo's writing style to my real persona's writing style they could statistically PROVE I am the same person and then link me to everything I've ever written as Gojo. But they can also link me to Gojo in other ways which are more common and easier for the LEA to implement...

Besides, Lungus is very good and knowledgeable...

Oh,

I did notice one thing: floranova.

I've never used it but Lucas say to use it at 8ml per gallon (I think). THis is the same of 0-8-16 but in one bottle.

HTH

[Lundin]

yes,

add some cal/mag together with flora if you can find some

take a look here https://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=3

[purplehaze2]

And he's talking about me. sorry gojo1

PH2,

lol...no, I'm not talking about ya bra...haha. Your all good man. I read and post here at C-W but I also read IC, HG, BMH, GS, GW, a few yahoo groups and other fourms too. What I mean is that overall there are more ppl posting in one big paragraph, Im not picking on ya!

have a good one hehe

[purplehaze2]

man you need a tent, and you would be sitting fat. 5x5 $ 350 and no light leaks, no IR detection, you already got everything else. I just have a 5x5 and 1- 600 and still have room for another one. just a suggestion.

[purplehaze2]

no!no! no ! no MY wife says I mutilate paragraphs ,spelling , every thing. I need to tighten up so people can read my shit. It drives her crazy.

[Lungus]

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Originally Posted by purplehaze2

man you need a tent, and you would be sitting fat. 5x5 $ 350 and no light leaks, no IR detection, you already got everything else. I just have a 5x5 and 1- 600 and still have room for another one. just a suggestion.

Another 600W bulb or another tent? With the 5x5 I would do my best to get a 1000Watter in there. Two 600's would be good as well but with the 1000's you get good deep penetration, and in the end, isn't that what we all want?

[purplehaze2]

I know lungus but he already has the 600 and thats why I went with 2- 600,maybe add the 1000 and the 600 or just boot the hole 600 all the way.

PH2,

Why do you say the tents prevent IR detection?

thanks

[Lungus]

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Why do you say the tents prevent IR detection?

Not just tents, any cabinet or room within a room. As long as there is air space between the warm grow area and the outside walls so that the heat signature isn't transmitted through it won't be picked up by IR detectors.

ah,

that makes sense...

thanks

[nuggdigger]

[purplehaze2]

are we talking shit nugdigger. hahahah

[purplehaze2]

man I could of sworn that 2-600 penatrated deeper than a 1000.IT would be 1 less light to hang,if you just had 1he 1000. And with 2-600 lights wouldnt you get a wider span of coverage. just brainstorming.

[Lungus]

You get more lumens from 2 x 600W, but they just don't penetrate as deeply. If you do SOG where the canopy is only a foot deep, I believe you would see more benefit from 2 600's but if you want to grow larger plants the 1000W will penetrate further down into the plants giving you a heavier harvest. If you took your 2 600's (or the 1000W for that matter) and hung them vertically in cool tubes you could also do a stadium style grow in you tent and maximize growing space that way as well.

[purplehaze2]

cool lungus awesome ,that would be cheaper too ,spending money on1 ballast and 1 light instead of 2 lights and 2 ballast,I aprreciate the help I want to buy the right shit the first time, I like bigger plants.

[Green Supreme]

Cool tubes reduce lumens. Peace GS

[notsonuts]

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion0012

ok ive been reading and reading on here and its been very informative. But i think i need to give all my info for a proper response from you guys so here goes....5x4 room with mylar on walls. 600 hps. flood and drain. 4' of space from light to flood table[have a seperate room for veg under floros] temps are 77 to 80 with light on and 70 with light off. rez temps are 70. 3x3 flood table with 18 gal rez.osilating tower fan and a good 400 cfm exaust fan running the aircooled light. using floranova grow and bloom for veg and bloom. in the veg room i have a drip system using rockwool. start seed/clones in 1.5 inch rockwool and then transfer them into 4x4 rockwool when they are rdy[this might be bad ?]. And then when they are rdy for flower i just put the 4x4s in the table full of hydroton[yes im switching to pots in the table]...so my questions are...1 im new with floranova what is a good feed program in veg with the floranova grow?...2 should i ditch the 4x4 rockwool and if so what size pots for veg then for bloom?....3 with my setup [switching to pots]what is the most productive/yielding way of configuring the table? 4 big plants 8-9 smaller ones or a bunch of popsicles?...4 is there anything you guys can think of that im not?......sry for all the stupid questions but im a med patient in norcal here and am just fascinated with all your knowledge and i want my grows to be good like all of yours thx for the help and pls feel free to throw in anything you guys would do different.....lets get me up and goin here fellas..lol thx again

i am really thinking unless you want to invest more money and if this is your first grow i would suggest going with what you have and use a scrog for your first grow.veg a little long and do some trimming to get a real bushy plant or two and 600 watts is all you will need im sure for a comparable first grow.move the plant or plants from veg when you figure you have 60-70% of your screen full.from there flower away and i think you will have enough space.if you start adding watts you will also increase your heat issues which presantly are border line.to help keep your res temp a little cooler if at all possible move your res out of your grow area.(67 degrees is ideal)about rockwool cubes,what i do is start my plant in the 1 inch and when roots appear at the bottom i then press it into a 4 inch rw cube.leave it in your veg drip system untill roots again appear at the bottom of the 4 inch rw cube transplant then into at least a 11 liter pot with hydroton,leave in drip system with the spike in the four inch cube for a min of a week to get roots to the bottom before transfering to your ebb and flow flower side.(allows roots a chance to reach down into the hydroton).hope this helps and good luck with your grow!!!