Electricity Conservation Tips - Cannabis-World

c-ray · 12-06-2006, 10:06 PM

to reduce power consumption around the house

1. Change regular incandesent light bulbs to compact fluorescent bulbs when possible.

more...
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Parabola · 12-07-2006, 01:21 AM

take your laundry to a laundromat or at least wash in cold water and hang out on the line when possible.

12-07-2006, 01:36 AM

Some stores sell an attatchment to put on your dryer outlet (absorbs humidity) and you vent your dryer INTO your house, thus reusing the heat energy.
Not applicable in all climates, but a good idea none-the-less....

peace - Tug

Parabola · 12-07-2006, 01:47 AM

If you are growing with hids you can use ducting and air cooled tubes to bring fresh air from outside, past the bulbs and into the home at a temp that will save you on heating costs. the system should be closed to the room so that no odors or humidity from the room get inside your living quarters.

smokinbasser · 12-07-2006, 04:34 PM

I have my HPS ballasts outside the flower room and they help warm the house allowing me to keep my furnace turned off. I also use space heaters to keep the main furnace 15,500w @240v from coming on. The majority of my lighting is either flouro tubes or CFLs, incandescents are still in fixtures rarely used(replace incans with cfls only when the hotwires burnout)

c-ray · 12-07-2006, 08:06 PM

if you have an electric water heater turn it down to the most tolerable setting

Green Supreme · 12-07-2006, 08:43 PM

Grow houses should have a fireplace. Not only for venting,but to heat the house when you turn the furnace off. I realize this isn't possible everywhere,but shutting it down for even part of the year is a savings. Peace GS

12-08-2006, 01:19 AM

Add a dry article of clothing to your wet laundry when using the dryer, this really speeds up the process, saving energy/money.
ODD had one, put a cookie sheet on the bottom rack of your oven when cooking on the upper racks, the convection process is accelerated, speeding cooking time and thus saving money.

peace - Tug

12-13-2006, 10:53 AM

Simply closing the doors on rooms that have walls which exterior the house, these rooms take much more energy to keep warm, and with the doors closed draw less heat away from your living quarters (generally a warm area).
This is more evident on older or less insulated homes.

peace - Tug

dpn · 12-15-2006, 10:18 PM

take showers at the gym, invest in some solar panels...

c-ray · 12-19-2006, 06:34 PM

* switch the stove over from an electric one to a gas one
or
* use a bbq

dpn · 12-19-2006, 07:22 PM

turn the f*cking tv off or throw it out the window lol

Green Supreme · 12-19-2006, 07:37 PM

If you threw it out your window. Wouldn't the open window let cold air in. LOL. Peace GS

dpn · 12-19-2006, 08:16 PM

or you could put it on the fire for fuel

FOLD · 01-04-2007, 12:17 AM

someone mentioned venting from the outside and I never tried it, the subfreezing temps would not hurt the plants?

c-ray · 01-04-2007, 02:21 AM

subfreezing temps can stress plants out if it is blowing right on the plants, which can lead to powdery mildew problems

Parabola · 01-05-2007, 04:45 AM

I looked and couldn't find any post above suggesting to bring freezing cold air into your room. Here is a neat idea though and could be modified to suit a growers needs easily.

There was a technique used or invented by the Romans a long time ago. A natural form of air conditioning / ventilation was used roughly as follows:

1. A trench 6 to 12 feet deep and 100 to 200 yards long was dug leading from the "house" in a straight line away from the house.
2. Into this trench a large diameter pipe (these days corrugated drainage pipe 2 or 3 feet diameter) was laid, with holes drilled into the bottom to drain water that condensed inside the pipe. The trench was then covered over.
3. At the far end a 90 degree elbow was attached and more pipe added so that it reached above ground and the end covered with some sort of wire mesh attached to keep out unwanted things such as rodents, etc., and then another elbow could be added at this end to shield against rain.
4. The house end of the pipe entered the house and was the source of incoming air.
5. The key to making this work is to add a convection chimney.
6. The Convection chimney is built such that it's inside opening is at a high point inside the building.
7. On the outside, two intersecting sides of the chimney; are painted flat black, and the resulting V formed by the two connecting sides face south. In other words, the V needs to face the mid point between where the sun rises and sets.
8. The two other sides must be transparent, Plexiglas or some equivalent. Also, the higher/larger the chimney, the better.

How it works: the sun heats up the chimney causing the air inside to rise, thus drawing air through the cool pipe. The pipe cools the air drawn from the outside to the temperature of the earth at the depth at which it is buried (which is virtually constant year around at this depth). By the way, an interesting note: Even in cold climates where the ground is frozen, the incoming air is only 32F when the air outside may be much colder, we need only heat the air by 38F to bring it to 70F; as opposed to heating outside air of say -15F to 70F we would have to heat the incoming air by 85F - quite a difference in the amount of heating energy we would have to supply by some other means.

Of course, without the sun to warm the chimney (or some other source) the system isn't worth fooling with.

Parabola · 01-05-2007, 05:33 PM

addendum: for a grow room the exhaust fan would be a replacement for the convection chimney. Airflow would also need to be at a rate that did not overdrive the system's ability to cool the air to ground temps. I'm not sure of the calculation but a high rate of airflow would need to be mitigated by longer piping thru the ground. using pvc piping and a day or two of excavation this is a practical cooling system that would be a energy saver over a relatively short period odf time compared to both the initial and long term expense of modern air conditioning.

c-ray · 01-05-2007, 06:29 PM

that is similar in concept to the subterranean heating/cooling system I posted earlier here -> https://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=2771
and something else nowadays called a solar chimney ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_chimney )

FOLD · 01-21-2007, 09:34 PM

I had a dream last night about incoming air being brought in through an underground pipe from an opening on an embankment under some bushes, FAR OUT!

justcurios · 01-21-2007, 09:40 PM

make it happen. anything is possible.

FOLD · 02-07-2007, 04:08 AM

yeah I guess so

justcurios · 02-07-2007, 01:05 PM

i bring my air in from my attic ,so it is fairly cold. 30-40 or so. i route my incoming air to the furthest corner of the room where it blows out under a small oil type space heater on a thermostat.but the duct coming in is like 25feet,and it almost warms up enough just blowing through the long hose in the room. hey parabola, that ditch sounds like a lot of digging,aye.lol

Parabola · 02-07-2007, 04:17 PM

a small to medium size excavator or back hoe will do it without breaking your back in two. remember it will bring in cool air without raising your power bill.

justcurios · 02-08-2007, 01:20 AM

Ya Your Right. Hope The Rental Place Has What We Need , Eh?

nuggdigger · 02-08-2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

i bring my air in from my attic ,so it is fairly cold. 30-40 or so. i route my incoming air to the furthest corner of the room where it blows out under a small oil type space heater on a thermostat.but the duct coming in is like 25feet,and it almost warms up enough just blowing through the long hose in the room. hey parabola, that ditch sounds like a lot of digging,aye.lol

ROTFLMAO, that's the funniest hashed up canadian wanna be sounding quote since Bob and Doug Mackenzie! You just made my day

Just

Quote:

What We Need , Eh?

Canadianese lessons down the hall

peace

12-06-2006, 10:06 PM	#1
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,773 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	Electricity Conservation Tips to reduce power consumption around the house 1. Change regular incandesent light bulbs to compact fluorescent bulbs when possible. more... vvvvvv
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

12-07-2006, 01:21 AM	#2
Parabola lex injusta non est lex Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,072	take your laundry to a laundromat or at least wash in cold water and hang out on the line when possible.
	"The man who craves disciples and wants followers is always more or less of a charlatan. The man of genuine worth and insight wants to be himself; and he wants others to be themselves, also." ~ Elbert Hubbard

12-07-2006, 01:47 AM	#4
Parabola lex injusta non est lex Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,072	If you are growing with hids you can use ducting and air cooled tubes to bring fresh air from outside, past the bulbs and into the home at a temp that will save you on heating costs. the system should be closed to the room so that no odors or humidity from the room get inside your living quarters.
	"The man who craves disciples and wants followers is always more or less of a charlatan. The man of genuine worth and insight wants to be himself; and he wants others to be themselves, also." ~ Elbert Hubbard

12-07-2006, 08:06 PM	#6
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,773 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	if you have an electric water heater turn it down to the most tolerable setting
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

12-07-2006, 08:43 PM	#7
Green Supreme Plant Manager Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: heaven,B.C. Canada Posts: 15,948 Favorites: congolese,sweet skunk,krush,Special K and Vision Thai	Grow houses should have a fireplace. Not only for venting,but to heat the house when you turn the furnace off. I realize this isn't possible everywhere,but shutting it down for even part of the year is a savings. Peace GS
	Nobody wants to plant the corn,everybody wants to raid the barn.

12-07-2006, 01:36 AM	#3
Tug Guest Posts: n/a	Some stores sell an attatchment to put on your dryer outlet (absorbs humidity) and you vent your dryer INTO your house, thus reusing the heat energy. Not applicable in all climates, but a good idea none-the-less.... peace - Tug

12-07-2006, 04:34 PM	#5
smokinbasser really old fart Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: High on the hill Posts: 135 Favorites: chemota dragon, or any other of motas work	I have my HPS ballasts outside the flower room and they help warm the house allowing me to keep my furnace turned off. I also use space heaters to keep the main furnace 15,500w @240v from coming on. The majority of my lighting is either flouro tubes or CFLs, incandescents are still in fixtures rarely used(replace incans with cfls only when the hotwires burnout)

12-08-2006, 01:19 AM	#8
Tug Guest Posts: n/a	Add a dry article of clothing to your wet laundry when using the dryer, this really speeds up the process, saving energy/money. ODD had one, put a cookie sheet on the bottom rack of your oven when cooking on the upper racks, the convection process is accelerated, speeding cooking time and thus saving money. peace - Tug

12-13-2006, 10:53 AM	#9
Tug Guest Posts: n/a	Simply closing the doors on rooms that have walls which exterior the house, these rooms take much more energy to keep warm, and with the doors closed draw less heat away from your living quarters (generally a warm area). This is more evident on older or less insulated homes. peace - Tug

12-15-2006, 10:18 PM	#10
dpn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: uk Posts: 721	take showers at the gym, invest in some solar panels...

12-19-2006, 06:34 PM	#11
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,773 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	* switch the stove over from an electric one to a gas one or * use a bbq
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

12-19-2006, 07:22 PM	#12
dpn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: uk Posts: 721	turn the f*cking tv off or throw it out the window lol

12-19-2006, 07:37 PM	#13
Green Supreme Plant Manager Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: heaven,B.C. Canada Posts: 15,948 Favorites: congolese,sweet skunk,krush,Special K and Vision Thai	If you threw it out your window. Wouldn't the open window let cold air in. LOL. Peace GS
	Nobody wants to plant the corn,everybody wants to raid the barn.

12-19-2006, 08:16 PM	#14
dpn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: uk Posts: 721	or you could put it on the fire for fuel

01-04-2007, 12:17 AM	#15
FOLD Forest Of Lucid Dreams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 35 Favorites: you name it	someone mentioned venting from the outside and I never tried it, the subfreezing temps would not hurt the plants?
	Forest Of Lucid Dreams

01-04-2007, 02:21 AM	#16
c-ray Amatéur Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Zion Posts: 9,773 Favorites: crystal skulls, starburst, saskwatch, i-spice, timewarp, montreal chemo, Knep, NLP, nepwarp, Sweet C	subfreezing temps can stress plants out if it is blowing right on the plants, which can lead to powdery mildew problems
	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

01-05-2007, 04:45 AM	#17
Parabola lex injusta non est lex Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,072	I looked and couldn't find any post above suggesting to bring freezing cold air into your room. Here is a neat idea though and could be modified to suit a growers needs easily. There was a technique used or invented by the Romans a long time ago. A natural form of air conditioning / ventilation was used roughly as follows: 1. A trench 6 to 12 feet deep and 100 to 200 yards long was dug leading from the "house" in a straight line away from the house. 2. Into this trench a large diameter pipe (these days corrugated drainage pipe 2 or 3 feet diameter) was laid, with holes drilled into the bottom to drain water that condensed inside the pipe. The trench was then covered over. 3. At the far end a 90 degree elbow was attached and more pipe added so that it reached above ground and the end covered with some sort of wire mesh attached to keep out unwanted things such as rodents, etc., and then another elbow could be added at this end to shield against rain. 4. The house end of the pipe entered the house and was the source of incoming air. 5. The key to making this work is to add a convection chimney. 6. The Convection chimney is built such that it's inside opening is at a high point inside the building. 7. On the outside, two intersecting sides of the chimney; are painted flat black, and the resulting V formed by the two connecting sides face south. In other words, the V needs to face the mid point between where the sun rises and sets. 8. The two other sides must be transparent, Plexiglas or some equivalent. Also, the higher/larger the chimney, the better. How it works: the sun heats up the chimney causing the air inside to rise, thus drawing air through the cool pipe. The pipe cools the air drawn from the outside to the temperature of the earth at the depth at which it is buried (which is virtually constant year around at this depth). By the way, an interesting note: Even in cold climates where the ground is frozen, the incoming air is only 32F when the air outside may be much colder, we need only heat the air by 38F to bring it to 70F; as opposed to heating outside air of say -15F to 70F we would have to heat the incoming air by 85F - quite a difference in the amount of heating energy we would have to supply by some other means. Of course, without the sun to warm the chimney (or some other source) the system isn't worth fooling with.
	"The man who craves disciples and wants followers is always more or less of a charlatan. The man of genuine worth and insight wants to be himself; and he wants others to be themselves, also." ~ Elbert Hubbard

01-05-2007, 05:33 PM	#18
Parabola lex injusta non est lex Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,072	addendum: for a grow room the exhaust fan would be a replacement for the convection chimney. Airflow would also need to be at a rate that did not overdrive the system's ability to cool the air to ground temps. I'm not sure of the calculation but a high rate of airflow would need to be mitigated by longer piping thru the ground. using pvc piping and a day or two of excavation this is a practical cooling system that would be a energy saver over a relatively short period odf time compared to both the initial and long term expense of modern air conditioning.
	"The man who craves disciples and wants followers is always more or less of a charlatan. The man of genuine worth and insight wants to be himself; and he wants others to be themselves, also." ~ Elbert Hubbard

01-21-2007, 09:34 PM	#20
FOLD Forest Of Lucid Dreams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 35 Favorites: you name it	I had a dream last night about incoming air being brought in through an underground pipe from an opening on an embankment under some bushes, FAR OUT!
	Forest Of Lucid Dreams

01-21-2007, 09:40 PM	#21
justcurios HARD WORKER Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 292 Favorites: ak-47 skywalker	make it happen. anything is possible.

02-07-2007, 04:08 AM	#22
FOLD Forest Of Lucid Dreams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 35 Favorites: you name it	yeah I guess so
	Forest Of Lucid Dreams

02-07-2007, 01:05 PM	#23
justcurios HARD WORKER Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 292 Favorites: ak-47 skywalker	i bring my air in from my attic ,so it is fairly cold. 30-40 or so. i route my incoming air to the furthest corner of the room where it blows out under a small oil type space heater on a thermostat.but the duct coming in is like 25feet,and it almost warms up enough just blowing through the long hose in the room. hey parabola, that ditch sounds like a lot of digging,aye.lol

02-07-2007, 04:17 PM	#24
Parabola lex injusta non est lex Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Posts: 1,072	a small to medium size excavator or back hoe will do it without breaking your back in two. remember it will bring in cool air without raising your power bill.
	"The man who craves disciples and wants followers is always more or less of a charlatan. The man of genuine worth and insight wants to be himself; and he wants others to be themselves, also." ~ Elbert Hubbard

02-08-2007, 01:20 AM	#25
justcurios HARD WORKER Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 292 Favorites: ak-47 skywalker	Ya Your Right. Hope The Rental Place Has What We Need , Eh?

02-08-2007, 01:47 PM	#26
nuggdigger clean and sober Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BFA Posts: 1,307 Favorites: none	Quote: i bring my air in from my attic ,so it is fairly cold. 30-40 or so. i route my incoming air to the furthest corner of the room where it blows out under a small oil type space heater on a thermostat.but the duct coming in is like 25feet,and it almost warms up enough just blowing through the long hose in the room. hey parabola, that ditch sounds like a lot of digging,aye.lol ROTFLMAO, that's the funniest hashed up canadian wanna be sounding quote since Bob and Doug Mackenzie! You just made my day Just Quote: What We Need , Eh? Canadianese lessons down the hall peace

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