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lemonthai · 09-04-2006, 03:41 AM

Well here ya go!

spaceman · 09-04-2006, 03:54 AM

Thoughts on leds.....

09-04-2006, 04:00 AM

Do LED's provide the correct wavelength of light for plant reproduction?

Specifically the near/far ratios.....

peace - Tug

09-04-2006, 04:14 AM

Thoughts on Synthetic Auxin...? Specifically Indole-3-acetic acid

Peace
GG

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 08:53 AM

fuck this

09-04-2006, 09:17 AM

09-04-2006, 09:41 AM

Leds are interesting,,,it will be eventually perfected for horticulture if these do not work

walmarts is switching all there stores to LED lighting,,,they will save 30 million a year,,

http://www.ledgrowlights.com/growing-with-leds.htm

resinman

mace · 09-04-2006, 12:45 PM

Hi plantbuilder,

i read on another site that methanol will inhibit photorespiration, so the plant will store energy rather than burn it in the darkcycle.

Is that true? If so, is it applicable to c?

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 07:06 PM

help others!

09-04-2006, 07:13 PM

Hey PB, have you done any experiments on UVB? Do you happen to know how much UVB is enough? How much is too much?

The Cannarchist · 09-04-2006, 07:26 PM

PB ,was that "henry's Juice" over in the Organics section courtesy of C-ray?

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 07:34 PM

keep trying

09-04-2006, 07:37 PM

But why do you use them only when it's been proven they don't produce as well as HPS? I would think you would at least be using both bulbs simultaneously.

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 07:40 PM

09-04-2006, 07:41 PM

Hey PB, I hope you don't mind me chiming in here.
UVB; 1 - 3 mins per hour (I used a mover as the bulbs were short, and the space larger) to start, and working upwards as strains show tolerance and not burning.

Massive increases in crystal on some strains.

peace - Tug

BTW, MH lights produce more UV light than HPS, a mix is often best, but some strains respond best to the stress of finishing under a MH.

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 07:44 PM

c-ray · 09-04-2006, 07:45 PM

you can pick up EM and rice bran bokashi from a nice japanese lady in richmond:

Century Farm Ltd Hiromi (f) Hiroshi (m)
justagirlinthecity@yahoo.com
604-856-0755

Hiromi Sugiyama
EMX Technologies, Inc of Canada
emxtechnologies@shaw.ca
604-924-0797

I've purchased from both successfully

bokashi can be made easy enough with EM, molasses and sawdust, etc.

this thread seems more like 'cutting edge' material.. anyone object if I move it there?

The Cannarchist · 09-04-2006, 07:47 PM

Do it

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 07:47 PM

09-04-2006, 07:51 PM

The UV light I had were non-ozone producing (if that's what you meant), they were B type (predominantly B), but I think a combination A & B was produced by lights back then (late 80's/early 90's). I'll check on that, see what I can find.

The lights were about 6" away from the plants on a mover (20 mins for the 3').
The most noticeable differences in crystal increase seemed strain-dependant.
I didn't figure that out until later as I was still fairly inexperienced when experimenting, but some strains with high % of their crystal as capitate-stalked trichomes (Indicas usually, I believe) showed the best increases.

I think LED's will be big in the future, less heat generation etc..

peace - Tug

This has me thinking that some experimentation may be worthwhile now, as I'm able to define real results with more objectivity as an adult.

Green Supreme · 09-04-2006, 07:55 PM

Power use might also be something improved upon.

What about Fibre optic transmitted light.Can yu imagine an array created with those?Your thought ?Peace GS

09-04-2006, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the input PB and Tug.

I thought the UVA light was bad for plants? At least that's what I've read.

09-04-2006, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Supreme

What about Fibre optic transmitted light

I remember a link that was posted on the old Leafreaders library that had pics of a big tree growing right in the middle of a building which was fed light through fiberoptics only. It was a great article!

plantbuilder · 09-04-2006, 08:07 PM

The Cannarchist · 09-04-2006, 08:08 PM

They had one at the BC hydro Expo.Looked like an octopus with the tips fashioned all around the plant.I laughed at the $1000 CND price tag....

c-ray · 09-04-2006, 08:37 PM

fibre optics is interesting, for moving the heat out of the grow area too

prism light tubes? what ever happened to those
and carbon filament lights?

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Tug Guest Posts: n/a	Do LED's provide the correct wavelength of light for plant reproduction? Specifically the near/far ratios..... peace - Tug

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GrowGreen Guest Posts: n/a	Thoughts on Synthetic Auxin...? Specifically Indole-3-acetic acid Peace GG

09-04-2006, 09:41 AM	#7
resinman Guest Posts: n/a	Leds are interesting,,,it will be eventually perfected for horticulture if these do not work walmarts is switching all there stores to LED lighting,,,they will save 30 million a year,, http://www.ledgrowlights.com/growing-with-leds.htm resinman

09-04-2006, 12:45 PM	#8
mace Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 296	Hi plantbuilder, i read on another site that methanol will inhibit photorespiration, so the plant will store energy rather than burn it in the darkcycle. Is that true? If so, is it applicable to c?

09-04-2006, 07:13 PM	#10
Agent-Smith Guest Posts: n/a	Hey PB, have you done any experiments on UVB? Do you happen to know how much UVB is enough? How much is too much?

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Agent-Smith Guest Posts: n/a	But why do you use them only when it's been proven they don't produce as well as HPS? I would think you would at least be using both bulbs simultaneously.

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Tug Guest Posts: n/a	Hey PB, I hope you don't mind me chiming in here. UVB; 1 - 3 mins per hour (I used a mover as the bulbs were short, and the space larger) to start, and working upwards as strains show tolerance and not burning. Massive increases in crystal on some strains. peace - Tug BTW, MH lights produce more UV light than HPS, a mix is often best, but some strains respond best to the stress of finishing under a MH.

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	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

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Tug Guest Posts: n/a	The UV light I had were non-ozone producing (if that's what you meant), they were B type (predominantly B), but I think a combination A & B was produced by lights back then (late 80's/early 90's). I'll check on that, see what I can find. The lights were about 6" away from the plants on a mover (20 mins for the 3'). The most noticeable differences in crystal increase seemed strain-dependant. I didn't figure that out until later as I was still fairly inexperienced when experimenting, but some strains with high % of their crystal as capitate-stalked trichomes (Indicas usually, I believe) showed the best increases. I think LED's will be big in the future, less heat generation etc.. peace - Tug This has me thinking that some experimentation may be worthwhile now, as I'm able to define real results with more objectivity as an adult.

09-04-2006, 07:55 PM	#21
Green Supreme Plant Manager Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: heaven,B.C. Canada Posts: 15,872 Favorites: congolese,sweet skunk,krush,Special K and Vision Thai	Power use might also be something improved upon. What about Fibre optic transmitted light.Can yu imagine an array created with those?Your thought ?Peace GS
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09-04-2006, 07:58 PM	#22
Agent-Smith Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the input PB and Tug. I thought the UVA light was bad for plants? At least that's what I've read.

09-04-2006, 08:03 PM	#23
Agent-Smith Guest Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by Green Supreme What about Fibre optic transmitted light I remember a link that was posted on the old Leafreaders library that had pics of a big tree growing right in the middle of a building which was fed light through fiberoptics only. It was a great article!

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	"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant." Hugh Lovel

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