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Temperatures to Vap Your Meds At
LOW TEMPERATURE: up to 150C (302F)
Angelica: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Black Horehound: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F) Blue Lotus: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F) Calea: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F) Chamomile: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F) Clove: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F) Corn Silk: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F) Dandelion: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F) Goldenrod: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Gotu Kola: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Horsetail: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Hyssop: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Lavender: 100C to 125C (212F to 257F) Meadowsweet: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Motherwort: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Passionflower: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Peppermint: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Purslane: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Rue: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Sage: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F) Saint John’s Wort: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Thyme: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Tobacco: 125C to 150C (257F to 302F) Wormwood: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Yarrow: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) Yerba Mate: 100C to 150C (212F to 302F) MEDIUM TEMPERATURE: up to 170C (347F) Anise: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Caraway: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Cat's Claw: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Coffee: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Comfrey: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Damiana: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Ephedra: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) *use sparingly / increases heart rate* Fennel: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Feverfew: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Hawthorn: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Ginkgo: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Guarana: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Lion's Tail: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Milk Thistle: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Mugwort: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Prickly Poppy: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) Red Poppy: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Saw Palmetto: 125C to 170C (257F to 347F) Sweet Flag: 150C to 170C (302F to 347F) HIGH TEMPERATURE: up to 185C (365F) Amanita Muscaria: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) *purity important* Barberry: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Burdock: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F) Cannabis: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Couch Grass: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Evening Primrose: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F) Fringe Tree: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Garlic: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Ginger 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Ginseng: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Hops: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Kava Kava: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) *use sparingly* Kola Nut: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Kratom: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Licorice: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Maca Root: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F) Marshmallow: 150C to 185C (302F to 365F) Sida Cordifolia: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Sinichuichi (Mayan Sun Opener): 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Turmeric: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Valerian: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Wattle Gum Leaf: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Wild Yam: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) Yohimbe: 170C to 185C (338F to 365F) ALWAYS start at the lower end of the temperature range and move up from there IF necessary. Most of the time, you can successfully vaporize at the lowest temp in the range. ULTRA HIGH TEMPERATURE: up to 200C (392F) Temps over 200C are not recommended Salvia Divinorum: 200C (392F) Toxic byproducts do get emitted at temperatures over 200C as you get closer to combustion. Due to that, we do not recommend anyone use continuous temps over 200C. Herbs and Essential Oils are the easiest to vaporize. Barks and Roots are harder to vaporize, make sure they are finely ground. This was put up on another site by Marco Renda. He said he wouldn't mind if I put it up here. Peace GS |
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thank you GS! time to try something else than cannabis in it
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have you ever tried to mix herbs and weed GS?
ie troll mix... peppermint shouldnt be so bad |
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I didn't know you could smoke all those herbs, And I do vape a little higher than that,I better drop her down a bit.
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Bubbleman has combined mint and weed he says it makes for a smoother hit. Guess thats why they came up with menthol cigs. Peace GS
ps. I have never tried combining as I like the taste of most of the weed I vape. Not big on flavored papers etc. either |
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bubbleman and I made bubble hash from mint leaves many years ago
it was awesome tasting and actually melted a little we took turns sprinkling bits of mint bubble on top of hits of canna bubble, there was not much at all and when bubbleman took his hit he looked over at me and said 'wow that's the first time I didn't cough' |
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"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant."
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Great info on vape temps. Like PH2 I didn't know that some of those herbs were vapable.
Does one vape milk thistle for aromatherapy? or does it still give the benefits of taking it orally. ( Used for liver ailments/health ) I am also interested in vaping Calea as I have heard the smoke is not all that pleasant. Blue Lotus is another herb I wouldn't mind trying. Have tried Kratom extract but I took that orally. Any info on vape temps for Pedicularis Densiflora? ( Indian Warrior ) Once again, great post G.S. |
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Psychedelic Devotee.
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Nice thread.
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No need to panic
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Great read !!
who here actually vapes cannabis at 365 or lower? for me being an ex bonger i really like 375, at 365 the vapor is very light and its hard to get a full effect. also, does anyone have any comments about the chromatography that takes place vaping? the first bag or fraction contains all the volatiles and tastes great! the next few have the bulk of the thc and get you blasted next is where the higher boiling point cbd comes off and it tastes like burnt nuts and the vapor is light....] I want to figure out how to get more cbd in my vape, maybe vaporizers could be under vaccum to lower the boiling points? peas |
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I like to vape at 6 on the Volcano. Think its about 390. I like the terp hits, makes my head feel all airy. As to cbd perhaps starting with high cbd cannabis would be a good start. Seems over the years this has been bred out in order to grow high thc cannabis. Have been told landraces and ibl's are a good place to start to look. Good luck. Peace GS
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my friend used to have a big chunk of hemp hash, it was quite the conversation piece, looked like the good stuff but really it was all cbd
having smoked that and some big hemp gagger out of curiousity I never really found it to be pass out stuff, more like physically numbing...I can see how it might be useful for adhd, nerve problems, etc. the pass out stuff I would guess would from be the combination of thc and certain terpenoids like possibly myrcene for instance |
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"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant."
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Think Sativex is 50% thc and 50% cbd. I hear it is quite uplifting. Peace GS
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yes I do believe it's a 50/50 mix of ethanol extracts from 2 strains, one pure hemp and one pure sativa
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"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant."
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Skunkman claims to have created a 97% cbd strain in the past. Peace GS
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We heat the glass on glass to appox 420F, then pull room temperature air through the glass which leaves the air temp at???
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350ish assuming room temp is 70 degrees. Peace GS
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5,5
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Civilized worm
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dmt is 120
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The places in between
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No need to panic
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it was interesting how in that nature of things special they said that the cbd can counter act the psychosis that a small % of people experience when using high thc cannabis.
I should have phrased my thoughts better, its more of a distillation that occurs, there is separation but not based on the affinity of the compounds to a stationary phase just purely on their volatilty and boiling point sativex is based on a co2 extract, theyre patent is available online somewhere |
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there's a few gw patents here lol -> http://v3.espacenet.com/searchResult...&compact=false
so iirc the various terpenoids can be separated by isoprene units, relatively speaking, do you think cannabinoids separate together (i.e. thc and cbd in the same fraction)? |
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"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant."
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I know they have been measured seperately as I have seen cbd numbers quoted by Sam_Skunman in the past as well as thc numbers. Peace GS
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I'm more curious if they will extract together in a co2 system, as the various types of terpenoids and other compounds should extract into their own fractions, meaning they have relatively similar boiling points and volatility
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"In the uptake of nutrients from the soil food web, sulphur is the catalyst for carbon chemistry, boron gives us sap pressure and silicon builds the capillary action that transports plant sap. Only then can calcium, magnesium and amino acids be delivered to cell division sites for chlorophyll manufacture. As chlorophyll catches light, phosphorous transfers energy into sugar production—after which a mix of sugars and more complex products follow potassium through the silica pathways to provide energy or its storage wherever required in the plant."
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Man, I remember seeing a list of evaporation temps for terps before. Let me see if I can hunt it out. Not sure about the concentrations fractions though. Peace GS
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Damn can`t find it now. Thought it was here somewhere and posted by Greens. Been wrong before...was wrong again lol. Peace GS
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No need to panic
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as far as i can tell they do extract equally as well ( cbd and thc) with co2 need to get going on some analysis hopefully in the new year. Im running my vape at 375 f still has worked good so far. runs best with a dollup of extract of course ![]() PEACE |
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