Sour Diesel Growth Characteristics

[Alaska]

Hello all, I hope everyone in canna land is doing well

I have aquired the SD clone and finally have got the momma big enough to get 16 good cuts off her. They will be grown 16 plants per sqaure meter, under a 600HPS in 2 gallon grow bags in a 3x3 tray.

My questions include the following, as I know the flowering time is 70-80 days.

How is the stretch???

Should I top/Fim or not?

How tall shoulld I get them?

My plan as of now is to flower them right after planting and a couple of days to harden off, at about 6" tall, probably topping them upon initiation of 12/12.

So, whats everyone think of this idea, and I appreciate all the info in advance

BTW, I use PBP nutes, w/PK13-14 during flowering.

Thanks again, be safe and enjoy life

A

[Shmokin]

I'd top for multiple colas and trim the lower growth a la Pistlwhip. She stretches big time. 4-5 times her height into the 4th week of flowering. Everything else looks good. My first SD is drying as we speak. She is not really the stinker everyone says she is. From far away she smells like sour candy and close up the diesel smell becomes apparent. 70 days to flower is enough imho.

[Alaska]

4 to 5 times her height eh, so if I flowered at about 6", I would finish with about 2-3 ft plants, if I topped or trained during the first weeks of flowering

Thanks Shmokin

A

[DOZEE]

the streach is about 1 1/2 -2 times .. I have grown reefermans , res dawgs and the origianal.. wheres she from?

[Alaska]

Its the original

A

[dpn]

ive seen some diesels topped and the yield was pretty sweet, im gonna top mine to keep the height down...

[slippery]

Hey Alaska!! How's it goin?


My experience with the sour is that she is an awesome yielder albiet a bit on the picky side to grow.

Around the second week break the tops over to get a bunch of nice branches on the same plane.

I found that when I topped the sour I'd get some eccentric branch patterns due to her leggyness combined with her propensity to just go up so I believe it to be best to progressively break the tops till round week 3 and then let it do its thing.

[Dman]

Hi Folks,

I've heard the ORIGINAL Sour-D cut has hermie tendencies under the slightest amount of stress....any truth to this? I did have a supposed real deal SD cut, but she showed herm under ideal conditions about 3 weeks into flower. She/he was culled immediately. :( I talked to Rez and he says the SD cut IS hermie prone, and real picky to grow. He's said he's bred both of those traits out of his IBL stock.

I have access to this same SD cut, and I'd love to try it....but I'm leary on getting it back?? I really don't have the time/space to waste on elite strains that herm....no matter how good they may be. :rolleyes:

[Joe King Park]

although i really enjoyed the ECSDv3, it was a unstable plant and did do the stretch
Wicked Flavour
but i know of other strains , more stable , less fuss, higher high and yield
i still have a little cut , but Gods Grape and Mary are now my staple stable
( never found G-Sus !! )lol
Joe

[Joe King Park]

Alaska ; they do bend well, so turn the stretch into a scrog
no strings attached!!, lol
similar to KD chemo haze, in that it will take 90 degree bends no problem
Joe

[Alaska]

Thanks Slippery, Dman, and Joe, I appreciate it.

I am thinking of scrogginf them.. I fimmed, and each plant only went into 3 tops, so I will figure someting out. I am also reversing a small one to make some S1's.

Dman, I will let you knkow on the Hermie issue. I am about 2 weeks in and just starting to show, so I will keep you all updated.

Thanks for the sneak preview Joe!

Be safe alla and enjoy life

A

[slippery]

Sup Alaska, Dman...

about the herm tendency...yea it will herm but to be honest it has never had fertile pollen, always been sterile so let em rip!!


shes picky on the nutes and on the light...stable temps are key too


about rezdogs 'ibl' how can you call it an ibl when he crossed it to a 'sour diesel' bagseed and even then at best its not a 100% sour s1 that soma started with as i have NEVER seen the sour have viable pollen and on top of that he crossed his "sour d" bag seed to afghani hawaiian...then rez took THAT and crossed it to the real sour clone and backed it 4 times...

since when is a 4th bx to a herm based polyhybrid considered an ibl?

just my 2c...

[BravoC.D.]

i grew out some f2's and i recall them being prone to P.M.

[Alaska]

Thanks slippery and Bravo!

Slippery, I agree with your ibl comments 110%

Bravo, thanks for the tip, I'll make sure to spray before the flower set get going much further

Well all, I have decided to do the 90degree bend as suggested by many here. I will attempt to get some before and after shots but I won't make any promises on the pictures.

Be safe and enjoy life

Alaska

[Joe King Park]

looking forward to the Knuckleshots Alaska
( they develop a large callous where you bend them, which will easily support the buds in the future)
also when i bend , i pay careful attention to bend ever so slowly until a droplet of liquid emerges from the top of the bend
i then hold the stalk in position for another 20 seconds or so , and thats it , it will not revert to its original shape
i have used this technique several times using the same branch
( do you remember Kevdaddy's Chemo haze i grew outdoors last year?)
i turned its characteristics from a 10 foot high by 6 feet wide plant, and by manipulation changed it into a 5 foot high by 12 feet wide plant
all by bending
reward for old lost images ( summer 05) of KD chemo
bigger reward for my deceased Rottie -Derringer images
Joe

[Alaska]

Thanks as always JKP, I will heed your words

A

[kephra]

Its the original



Here is the original cut. We have had her for almost a year now but this is our first flower with her. In my environment (which hasn't been the best by a long shot), she stretched a tad over 2X I would say. No herm signs at this point, but I'm sure my current conditions should coax someting from her. :D

I give her about 1/3 strength nutes, this one is in coco.

[Shmokin]

I didn't see any hemies on mine and there was a small light leak for awhile. Mine may have stretch more than usual because she had been cut back several times so her root system was as big enough for a plant 3x her size.

[Alaska]

Hey all, here are som shots. I will start with the shots before the breaking, then do the breaking shots, then the final broken canopy shot

A

[Alaska]

Now for the breakage shots!!

[Alaska]

Hey Dman, you were 100% correct about the hermie issues, I found this as I was breaking. I will keep you all informed as to whether or not there is pollen inside if I find anymore

Hope you all enjoyed the pics!Be safe and enjoy life

Alaska

[Alaska]

An updated shot or two of a couple days after breaking

A

[slippery]

Sup Alaska

Lookin' sick bro, way to go with the canopy now is the time to let the jump go and then prune her up and stake it!!!


Stay heady!

Slip

[Alaska]

Well everyone, good news and bad news. Well start with the bad. The light over the SD fell down, crushing the plants. The good news is since I had previously broken them, only one plant was damaged beyond repair, the others were splinted, watered, and moved under a different light until this one can be hung securely

A

[Elkslayer]

Sup Alaska, Dman...

about the herm tendency...yea it will herm but to be honest it has never had fertile pollen, always been sterile so let em rip!!


shes picky on the nutes and on the light...stable temps are key too


about rezdogs 'ibl' how can you call it an ibl when he crossed it to a 'sour diesel' bagseed and even then at best its not a 100% sour s1 that soma started with as i have NEVER seen the sour have viable pollen and on top of that he crossed his "sour d" bag seed to afghani hawaiian...then rez took THAT and crossed it to the real sour clone and backed it 4 times...

since when is a 4th bx to a herm based polyhybrid considered an ibl?

just my 2c...

Slippery, I know who you are and you haven't grown SourD, so quit regurgitating my good friends information as yer own. Why you constantly bash Rez is beyond me. Like him or hate him he has done some decnt work/efforts. With what seeds have you graced the community???

DMan- SourD will show herm tendencies on lower branches that receive little to no light. I always trim at week one and three of flower, and you will never see this phenomenon in dirt.

The stretch is like maybe 2X at best, with high heat she will stretch quite a bit more. I definately found it does better with no topping. I will bend/manipulate, kinda a quazi scrog look, and she yields very well. It is not much of a finicky eater as I have even done her 100% coco all organic with great results. She will require modest amounts of Nitrogen up till week 4.

Good Luck Alaska!!

ES

[slippery]

Slippery, I know who you are and you haven't grown SourD, so quit regurgitating my good friends information as yer own. Why you constantly bash Rez is beyond me. Like him or hate him he has done some decnt work/efforts. With what seeds have you graced the community???

DMan- SourD will show herm tendencies on lower branches that receive little to no light. I always trim at week one and three of flower, and you will never see this phenomenon in dirt.

The stretch is like maybe 2X at best, with high heat she will stretch quite a bit more. I definately found it does better with no topping. I will bend/manipulate, kinda a quazi scrog look, and she yields very well. It is not much of a finicky eater as I have even done her 100% coco all organic with great results. She will require modest amounts of Nitrogen up till week 4.

Good Luck Alaska!!

ES

that aint no regurgitation and what do you know about what has been in and out of my place? :respect:

also- its YOUR oppinion that he's done decent/works and efforts...why cant I express mine?

RE seeds...i got the gears turnin man.

[Alaska]

Thanks Elky!

Most plants seem ok after the accidnet, just glad I got in there with the floral wire when I did

A

[thai die]

on the hermie issue with the SD, if im not tryin for bananas i dont see um, but ive light stressed the plant 3 times hopein for seed and the pollen was sterile or not mature, as the third run, i did get a few seeds.

CBF

[baccas125]

I have yet to see any signs of Hermie on my SD. I have only grown her out in pro-mix and mild organic ferts. The stretch is big be ready to manipulate the plant however it works best for your grow. I have a larger yielding strain from rez his dsd v2 and its yield is way more explosive but the high isn'y quite there and the taste is off a bit but still a nice plant.