Designated Growers Corner

[Green Supreme]

So, as I am in wait for my DG license I thought I would start a thread for DG's. Peace GS

[Fungus Nat]

That is for provinces other than Qc i guess.

[Green Supreme]

Sorry, we have found out that the commissionaire thing was done 6 months ago. So I have removed the suggestion.

I will again put the mmas's link in this thread. They allow folks to have appointments by skype, which makes it possible for anyone, anywhere to get signed. Just need your letter of diagnosis and a list of meds you are taking. The skype process costs about $400. My buddies went to the office in person and it's $125 ish. After ferries and their time, expenses etc. they figure it was about $400 each anyways. Peace GS

www.mmas.ca

[Fungus Nat]

Nice, it is good to let people know.
http://whyprohibition.ca/blogs/jacob-hunter/court-strikes-down-marijuana-laws-gives-government-90-days-fix-charter-issues

[Green Supreme]

Doc's that sign and Doc's that don't. Peace GS

http://johnturmel.com/doctors.htm

[vapor]

i got a couple for there list

[Green Supreme]

So since April they have been issuing cards with licenses. My room mate found out today, that once again they have stopped issuing, as of September 7th. The BS continues. Peace GS

[vapor]

lol

[Fungus Nat]

fuck the cards. A copy of your pink slip is all you need.
peace

[vapor]

well ya fuck them but why the fuck would they send them out in the first place.I can get my driver papers in afew days and thats a province wide issues......

[c-ray]

from http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/09/28/pol-mckie-medical-marijuana-talks.html

Medical marijuana law under review
Current law pits doctors against patients and creates backlogs, critics say
By David McKie, CBC News
Posted: Sep 28, 2011

Health Canada began two days of closed-door talks Wednesday about changes to the controversial medical marijuana law that has faced legal challenges and criticism for being ineffective.

But even as meetings get underway in Ottawa, there are concerns Health Canada is on the wrong track with a law that asks doctors to ignore a sworn obligation to protect patients’ health, while forcing patients to go to great lengths to obtain a drug that many say eases their pain.

Health Canada will hear from representatives of provincial and territorial ministries, medical associations, police forces, municipalities and users of medical marijuana.

Under the "Marihuana Medical Access Program," the obtaining of medical marijuana depends on doctors issuing an approval or "declaration" confirming that the cannabis will be smoked to ease pain, nausea or other symptoms associated with an illness.

But physicians have long resisted this so-called gatekeeper role, arguing that there is insufficient proof that medical marijuana actually works.

"Smoking something seems really counterintuitive when we have a vast array of evidence going back 50 or 60 years on the deleterious effects of tobacco smoke," John Haggie, president of the Canadian Medical Association, told CBC News.

"A lot of these patients have chronic conditions. It’s not an acute problem. So you may be storing up untold problems for the future just simply by the way you’re giving the medication. And this absence of information is hindering the whole process."

Paul Lewin, a lawyer who represented 22 patients in a case over access to medical marijuana, says he heard many stories from users frustrated with a system that puts all the power in the hands of doctors.

"It has been about six years that I’ve been fielding calls from sick people all over Canada, saying 'I hear you're bringing a case for people whose doctors won’t sign [declarations],'" he told CBC News.

"And I'm always starting out skeptical, like 'What are you, some 18-year-old with a sore back?' But no, [it's stories like] 'I'm 65 and I've never tried it before, but my daughter said it might help. And then I tried it for the first time and I couldn't believe the relief I got.'

"The stories are tragic.”

Lewin won the case last spring that threw out a possession charge against an Ontario man, Matthew Mernagh, who testified he grew marijuana himself after his doctor wouldn't sign an approval. The government is appealing, and the case will be heard in March 2012.

Yet Health Canada is proposing to continue making physicians the gatekeepers in an attempt to streamline the process for thousands of individuals who either have a licence to legally consume or buy marijuana to treat symptoms of their illness.

Although the department is recommending the creation of an expert advisory committee to "improve access to comprehensive and up-to-date information on the potential risks and benefits," Haggie still has concerns that were expressed in a letter the CMA sent to the health minister in July.

More research needed: CMA
One of the four key issues raised by the CMA was the "the lack of appropriate efficacy and safety evidence" that the 2001 law says must be in place before a treatment is deemed to be safe.

Haggie says it was his association's understanding that Health Canada would continue to conduct critical research into the efficacy of medical marijuana. But the Harper government eliminated funding for those studies when it assumed power in 2006.

In announcing the cuts to medical marijuana research, the government said it doesn’t believe it should tell researchers what to study.

Health Canada, in an emailed response to questions from CBC News, wouldn't elaborate on why cuts were made to research considered vital to the viability of the law. But the department pointed to research it funded before 2006, and said it intends to rely on the expert committee to advise doctors on the latest research when the new law comes into effect within the next two years.

The promise of an advisory committee is doing little to ease the concerns of doctors.

In the Mernagh case, the judge concluded that "the vast majority of doctors in Canada are refusing to participate in [the medical marijuana] program."

Citing the withdrawal of research funding, the judge added, doctors “are obliged by the ethics of their profession not to do anything to harm their patient, and therefore cannot knowingly approve the use of a product whose benefits and risks have not been verified by clinical studies."

In its defence, the federal government argued the law wasn't to blame because Health Canada's only obligation is to permit access to the drug, not to market it or educate doctors.

Overwhelmed by applications
In addition to court challenges, Health Canada has also faced problems managing the program. In a 2010 internal briefing note CBC News obtained through Access to Information, there is a discussion of backlogs, in part due to the greater number of people who manage to find a consenting physician.

"While the program was originally intended to authorize access for a small number of persons, it was never anticipated that applications to produce [marijuana] in individual personal residences would number in the thousands. The number of authorized persons under the program has increased since 2005 from 805 to 5,183."

In its emailed response to CBC News, the department says that as of Sept. 25, 2011, there are "12,264 individuals who hold a valid authorization to possess marihuana for medical purposes."

But according to critics, that figure underestimates the real number of Canadians who may be using medical marijuana.

The judge in the Mernagh case concluded that the number of doctors signing demands is a "trickle" compared with the actual number of people who actually need treatment.

The judge also cited a study that concluded there are about 400,000 medical marijuana users in Canada, which he concluded was "most likely an underestimate."

That number is hard to verify, as neither Health Canada nor the CMA tracks individuals who are unable to find a doctor willing to sign declaration forms.

[Green Supreme]

No research, too funny. Blinders baby. It keeps ya going straight. Peace GS

[vapor]

givem hell Lewin!

[Green Supreme]

Got these locally. They are UL rated and so quiet. My electrical inspector says he would accept this rating. We paid $130 each. Peace GS

[disciple]

so somebody's license arrived for them at the canada post desk today.

when they opened it they found a photocopy of a document advising that licensed medical marijuana growers within the city of vancouver should expect to be visited by an electrical inspector.

also if the grower is licensed but not growing in their own residence then they should check with zoning laws before making an investment in setting things up.

people here prolly already know about this but thought I'd mention it.

[Green Supreme]

So they make us get Police check every year. I would recommend these folks. Only takes 24 hours to get the paperwork back, took VPD 2 weeks. Less questions and no standing in the cop shop waiting. Peace GS

http://www.commissionaires.ca/

[Green Supreme]

Turns out I need the landlord to redo the form F too. So that's form R and D for my patient, Form D and Police Check for me{DG} and Form F for the landlord. I will redo my pics too, having my patient sign on pic for verification just so they have no excuses. Peace GS

[vapor]

ahh never had to use form f myself. they should really have a reapply one form fits all, it is ridiculous the hoops they make us jump....

[Green Supreme]

Ya that's the landlord consent form. Only necessary when the landlord is down. Peace GS

[c-ray]

from http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/breakingnews/inspectors-find-safety-concerns-at-medical-marijuana-grow-op-in-calgary-137684288.html

Inspectors find safety concerns at medical marijuana grow op in Calgary

By: Bill Graveland, The Canadian Press

Posted: 01/19/2012 12:21 PM

CALGARY - The same sort of dangers and health risks lurking in illegal marijuana grow-ops have been discovered at a federally approved medical marijuana operation.

Inspectors in Calgary executed a warrant this week to examine an operation licensed by Health Canada. Building regulations investigators, with support from the police, concluded the owners violated several safety provisions.

"To find this number of safety infractions in a federally approved medical grow operation is very disturbing," Wayne Brown, who heads the co-ordinated safety response team, said Thursday.

He said the infractions included building code violations and compromised air intake. Toxins, pesticides, herbicides, fertilizer and potentially contaminated drinking water were also found.

Brown said there were also combustibles too close to a heat source and a natural gas line that wasn't properly installed. The only difference between illegal and legal operations is that there was no theft of power in this case.

"Evidence of this situation poses a serious safety risk to the community,” added Brown. "It was very, very similar to what we find in an illegal grow-op."

He said operators licensed to grow medical marijuana need to take public safety seriously and should ensure that they are in compliance with all applicable bylaws and safety codes.

This isn't the first time Brown and his colleagues have found a problem at a licensed facility. Last October, there was an explosion and fire at another operation.

The warrant for this inspection was obtained after a tip from a concerned citizen and armed with the knowledge of what happened last fall.

Marijuana for medicinal use has been allowed in Canada for more than a decade. An estimated one million Canadians use it to treat a variety of health problems.

Brown is concerned that there are probably other facilities in Calgary that could have the same sort of safety issues. But his department has no idea how many or where they might be, he said.

"We don't know that. Health Canada doesn't divulge that information to anyone and so we really don't have a number.

"We don't have an issue with the idea of a legal medical marijuana grow operation within the city of Calgary, but we do have an issue with them not abiding by our bylaws or safety codes. It would be great if we could inspect these properties," Brown said.

"Maybe this is the catalyst for a discussion with Health Canada to ensure these medical marijuana grow-ops are safe."

An order under Alberta's Municipal Government Act has been issued to fix the problems or the house will be demolished. Fences and placards have been installed, and the site remains secured.

[Green Supreme]

The only difference between illegal and legal operations is that there was no theft of power in this case.

That statement kinda pisses me off. Peace GS

[vapor]

yea pretty lame bias article, it is the same mentality with the kiddie porn guys. they are a small percentage of the population yet they want to treat us all like we are kiddie porn people with these new internet bills they are trying to pass in the states, man i can smell a revolution in America, freedom of speech. Is becoming a simple thing in the name of fear. Time for some personal responsibility the govt is too big and must have its head chopped off. pretty soon there will be a law saying you can not wear two different colored socks on tuesdays.

[outdoordreams]

Does a person have to be a citizen to be a designated grower, or can a permanent resident qualify?

[Green Supreme]

From da man. Peace GS

"Resident of Canada. No need for citizenship."

[outdoordreams]

Thanks Green Supreme. 24 posts from 14000. YOU da Man! :respect:

[otto]

"He said operators licensed to grow medical marijuana need to take public safety seriously and should ensure that they are in compliance with all applicable bylaws and safety codes."

yea he's right, lets all quit this clean organic non toxic save the world shite and go work in the tar sands......at least then I'll know I'm safe from any toxicity in the workplace environment, cuz you know, they make sure to follow all safety codes and bylaws..........:laugh2:

[Green Supreme]

Stressed and Depressed Association. Peace GS

http://stressedanddepressed.ca/dev/booklets.html

[Green Supreme]

Found this on another site. Peace GS

Health Canada does have 15 inspectors devoted to the thousands of licensed grow operations in Canada, but in-stead of looking at building safety, they check for things such as plant numbers, security measures and other federal marijuana regulations, ministry spokesman Gary Holub said in an e-mail.

[Springs]

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/925387/health-canada-turns-to-black-market-for-advice-on-growing-pot

Health Canada turns to black market for advice on growing pot
OTTAWA, Feb. 22, 2012 /CNW Telbec/ - After almost ten years in the business of selling marijuana, Health Canada finally recognizes the expertise of those it had sought to exclude—medical marijuana growers and distributors operating outside the law and whose activities pre-date the existence of any legal medical marijuana framework.

Marc-Boris St-Maurice, from the Montreal Compassion Center, a medical cannabis dispensary founded in 1999, will be participating in a consultation meeting with health Canada officials and other stakeholders this Wednesday Feb 22nd, in Ottawa to share his expertise on how to produce and distribute medical marijuana.

Until now, health Canada has been loathe to acknowledge the important contribution made by those who risked, and in many cases still face legal problems for having sought only to come to the aid of those seriously ill and suffering Canadians who benefit from the use of marijuana. It is high time this expertise is recognized for the good of all those needing safe, reliable access to this life saving product.

Mr. St-Maurice, who will be attending the meeting starting at 9am, will be available for comment from 12:00 till 12:45 this Wednesday February 22nd, in the lobby of the "Minto Suite Hotel", 185 Lyon street, Ottawa

For further information:
Marc-Boris St-Maurice
514-808-8682

I guess they had a meeting in Victoria on the 15th, and then this one today in Ottawa.

[Green Supreme]

Interesting flip they are making. Peace GS

[Springs]

If they were serious about their plans for commercial producers and providing equal and ease of access to the program they will need hundreds of commercial producers for the HC estimated million plus cannabis medicators.

The two meetings happening are consultations for Commercial Production regulation framework, specifically regarding, quality, security and record keeping. From what I know, the invitation only meetings were extended to those who have expressed interest in becoming commercial producers.

Its pretty frustrating for them to only have two meeting in two provinces.

[vapor]

it is a closed loop buddy you need to be on the team to get in... how ever you do that....it is very frustrating...

[Springs]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/22/qa-first-health-canada-helps-prosecute-marijuana-growers-then-asks-them-for-advice/




Q&A: First Health Canada helps prosecute marijuana growers, then asks them for advice


Kristin Annable Feb 22, 2012 – 8:09 PM ET



Postmedia News files

Marc-Boris St. Maurice during the 2004 federal election, when he was leader of the Marijuana Party.

Montreal’s Centre de Compassion, a medical marijuana facility, was raided last year and subsequently shut down, its director Marc-Boris St. Maurice charged with trafficking. Yet, much to his surprise, Health Canada asked him for advice on the subject of medical marijuana, along with other black market medical marijuana growers and dispensers and members of Health Canada’s Bureau of Medical Marihuana Regulatory Reform, at a meeting in Ottawa Wednesday. They wanted to know how to grow, distribute and regulate the drug for medical purposes. The National Post’s Kristin Annable spoke to Mr. St. Maurice:

Q: Health Canada had an audience full of people who Ottawa has spent years trying to shut up and shut down. With this opportunity, what sort of questions did they ask?

A: Well I have the sheet right here, some examples are:

In an indoor installation would you use artificial or natural light?

Should you use hydroponic or natural soil?

What are the minimum requirements, in your opinion, for the person in charge of quality?

Q: And how did you answer those questions?

A: In my opinion the most important thing is the proficiency of the person, whether it is hydroponic or natural soil. Obviously, I prefer indoor because you can control the environment better. I think you would need someone with both microbiology experience and someone who has experience cultivating.

Q: Usually facilities like yours are at odds with the government. How does it feel to have Health Canada come to you looking for help?

A: That is the irony of the situation. Health Canada has come to court testifying against myself and other medical marijuana providers many times. Yet, now they are coming to us looking for information because they know it has value. Some people here have cases pending against them; are they going to testify against us after inviting us here?

Q: What were the people like who were there?

A: There were producers from all over the country. I think there was at least three from Toronto, some more from Montreal, Halifax, Guelph. The crowd was quite diverse, people in suits and ties, people in ponytails and leather hats, everyone from lawyers to old hippies.

Q: Over the years you must have developed quite the expertise on the subject.

A: Yes, we have always had to do it illegally. The positive is that they are acknowledging our level of expertise, which is a phenomenon.

Q: So how did they extend the invite to you?

A: Last summer, Health Canada announced that they were overhauling the whole medical marijuana access regulations and getting rid of personal production licenses.

We went to a consultation at that time to discuss dispensing marijuana, where they announced that they would be giving out commercial production licenses to “compassion care” facilities to supply and legally produce it.

Q: So they decided that they want it produced commercially for medical use?

A: They said they would have a subsequent meeting to follow-up, which was this meeting. This was the first meeting that they have reached out to and recognized our expertise on the subject of production.

Q: And how did they conduct the meeting?

A: It was in a hotel conference room. We were broken up into three groups to discuss three themes: Quality, record keeping and security.

Q: Do you think the government understands what they are doing when it comes to growing marijuana?

A: No I don’t think they do. After 10 years of this, they are realizing that what we do is complex.

Q: What were the bigger concerns raised at this consultation?

A: Security. One thing they were asking was whether they should do criminal background checks for the producers. I’m of the opinion it would be wrong to exclude people who have a record of marijuana production, because they have the experience. It’d be like having a gay rights club and only letting straight people in.


National Post

[Green Supreme]

I heard Boris recommended that producers should have a degree in microbiology. He was in the position they are speaking of for a while, I bet he has no degree in microbiology. I wonder how he was capable of doing his job back then? Peace GS

[Springs]

Charlatan

Somehow microbiology is more relevant than horticulture? A requirement of either is stupid. Perhaps he's got real bad PM problems???

[vapor]

i figure the big wigs got some learning to do, hands on baby thats the way you learn, by fuckin things up and fixing them, after awhile you start to develop the eye, and prevention becomes a lifestyle......

[Springs]

I guess its common for the person in charge of Quality Assurance in pharmaceutical production to have experience or a degree in microbiology, but its not a requirement, so I doubt it will be for a QA manager for cannabis production.

Natural Health Products Regulations
http://gazette.gc.ca/archives/p2/2003/2003-06-18/html/sor-dors196-eng.html

probably going to be pretty relevant, though it specifically excludes substances controlled under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, which medical "marijhuana" is still controlled under, but imo that will be changing so it will be regulated and controlled as a Natural Health Product.

[c-ray]

they should have something like foodsafe... weedsafe

[Springs]

Been hearing that a few folks have been getting there docs processed in record time, under a month and as short as a week.
Hopefully it lasts and the id cards start getting out!

[Green Supreme]

Sent my re-app in 3rd week of January, still waiting. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

My licensee got the renewal today. That's 7 weeks for a renewal. Peace GS

[outdoordreams]

:tup:

[Springs]

right on!

were you closer than a month before expiry?

[outdoordreams]

Criminal Record Check..........question? What do I put in part two, this space is where the record check is going. I put Health Canada as the name of organization. Address locator 0900C2 as the address. Ottawa Ontaria K1A 0K9.

Did I do it correctly?

[vapor]

tell them you want it for your personal job search folder. And you are going to look for jobs in the coming week and need it, send it yourself, or tell them you are a growing the manahoochy and go that route depends on you and how you want to approach it.

[Green Supreme]

Nah your supposed to re apply 4 months out, so we did. My renewal came today too along with the new piece that HC has been working on all this time. Peace GS

[vapor]

it makes me feel like i am watching some one barf over and over again in slow motion, health canada that is....

[Green Supreme]

At this point I would suggest to any licensee that, when you renew you should apply for an increase. You have gone a year trying what they have recommended. Time to try something new. Things may fall and you may be grandfathered in with what you have. You may not need it now, but you are not sure you won't in the future. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

Ok so I have found out one of my fave stores, Evergreen on Kingsway at Glen is selling the UL approved ballasts I was speaking of for 150. Good news. Peace GS

http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showpost.php?p=111501&postcount=14

[Springs]

Nice one.

I notice they use a SS lamp outlet, and that you have a converter, any idea what the converters go for and if they offer them in 14 or 12 guage?

[Green Supreme]

Sorry, converter came for free. That one is for my veg room the others are hard wired in. Peace GS

[Springs]

Cool, thanks. So the UL cert'ed ones come with a lamp cord? Know what length?

[outdoordreams]

Very cool information on the ballasts! :cool2:

Ive heard of them being sold for $110 in other places. Both very good prices.

[Green Supreme]

I heard Health Canada is on the island checking plant counts. Just a heads up. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

Asked the lawyer if they can just show up surprise stylee and ask to see. His reply is below. Peace GS

Yes they can but you are perfectly entitled to say you need to talk to the ATP and/or counsel. That's what I'd recommend unless you have no problem letting them in.

ps. he added this after:

Somewhat different rules also apply if grow is in a residence. I will try to write more on this later.

[Springs]

Pretty sure I've read in the rules that they must give some form of notice. Though I guess they could hand you a notice as they arrive to inspect... Ill try and find it when I can.

Thanks for the heads up!

[vapor]

so it could be that they send out letters in the mail to said places, then they do the rounds, who knows, would be interesting and i would like to know....

[Springs]

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2001-227/page-12.html#h-41

Inspection

57. (1) To verify that the production of marihuana is in conformity with these Regulations and a licence to produce, an inspector may, at any reasonable time, enter any place where the inspector believes on reasonable grounds that marihuana is being produced or kept by the holder of the licence to produce, and may, for that purpose,
(a) open and examine any receptacle or package found there that could contain marihuana;
(b) examine anything found there that is used or may be capable of being used to produce or keep marihuana;
(c) examine any records, electronic data or other documents found there dealing with marihuana, other than records dealing with the medical condition of a person, and make copies or take extracts;
(d) use, or cause to be used, any computer system found there to examine electronic data referred to in paragraph (c);
(e) reproduce, or cause to be reproduced, any document from electronic data referred to in paragraph (c) in the form of a printout or other output;
(f) take any document or output referred to in paragraph (c) or (e) for examination or copying;
(g) examine any substance found there and, for the purpose of analysis, take samples, as reasonably required; and
(h) seize and detain, in accordance with Part IV of the Act, any substance found there, if the inspector believes, on reasonable grounds, that it is necessary.
(2) An inspector may not enter a dwelling-place without the consent of an occupant of the dwelling-place.
(3) An inspector who seizes marihuana shall take such measures as are reasonable in the circumstances to give to the owner or other person in charge of the place where the seizure occurred notice of the seizure and of the location where the seized marihuana is being kept or stored.
(4) If an inspector determines that the detention of marihuana seized under paragraph (1)(h) is no longer necessary to ensure compliance with these Regulations, the inspector shall notify in writing the owner or other person in charge of the place where the seizure occurred of that determination and, on being issued a receipt for the marihuana, shall return it to that person.


I think perhaps the different rules GS buddy was referring to is section (2) as a dwelling-place probably wouldn't include commercial or industrial locations.

[Green Supreme]

Some Romulain't and 15 week Columbian Black I puffed with Marihuanaman and Jodie Emery yesterday to celebrate the increase we received for my med garden. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

The new rules from HC. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

The Nanaimo Street on has a page now. Peace GS

http://mcrci.com/contact-us/

[Green Supreme]

Patients wishing to educate their Doctors may want to start here. Peace GS

http://cannabisclinicians.org/oshaughnessys/

[Fungus Nat]

we should have anywhere from 8 to 16 weeks to answer their demand of visit.....lol.peace.

[Green Supreme]

LOL have heard wait times for processing new licenses is down to 5 weeks. Peace GS

[vapor]

lol

[Green Supreme]

Mr.Resistor does it again. This post from Chimera on another site. Peace GS

Resins / Extracts MMAR
Kirk Tousaw successfully argues that the provisions in the MMAR restricting cannabis use to only dried cannabis flowers is unconstitutional, and the provisions restricting cannabis use to dried flowers has been stricken from the books.

Start making your cookies/edibles, hashes, and extracts folks!

Send Kirk some love, support and thanks. Get siftin'!

-Chimera

[c-ray]

excellent news!

[outdoordreams]

Very cool news!

[vapor]

way cool!

[Green Supreme]

Might have to get my license based on hash consumption. Let's see hmmm. 5 grams of hash a day. Takes at least 10 grams of weed for 1 gram of hash. That's 50 grams of weed a day. Ya over 200 plants, now that sounds ok to me. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

More. Peace GS

Prohibition on medical pot cookies unconstitutional


A B.C. Supreme Court judge has struck down a section of Canada's medical marijuana laws that said licensed users cannot possess pot cookies or marijuana body creams.

Justice Robert Johnston ruled the federal medical marijuana access regulation that allows permitted users to only possess dried marijuana is unconstitutional on Friday in Victoria.

The court challenge stems from the case of Owen Smith, who was charged with trafficking for baking pot cookies and producing topical cannabis creams for a medical marijuana club in Victoria in 2009.

Health Canada allows people suffering from debilitating illnesses to have access to marijuana for medical purposes. They can get the marijuana through Health Canada or they can get permission to grow it themselves.

But Smith's lawyer Kirk Tousaw successfully argued there is a contradiction in the law, which allows the designated users to smoke marijuana but prohibits them from turning it into any other product.

However, Justice Johnston also ruled even though Smith's constitutional rights were breached by the regulation, he will still have to stand trial for trafficking because he may have been producing the products for people who weren't permitted users.

[vapor]

thanks eh! for the info makes a sunny day even better!
The field of dreams draws closer!

[outdoordreams]

How old does a person have to be to work inside a legal medical grow?
How old does a person have to be to get a licence?

[Green Supreme]

Pretty certain that there is no age restriction for patients. I know there are child licensee's. I will look into the grower part. Peace GS

[vapor]

my first doctor signed for a 4 year old.....

[Green Supreme]

Minimum age is 18. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

Oh he also says their is an age for PPL as well. Apparently you cannot produce your own meds till you are 18 either. Peace GS

[outdoordreams]

Thanks GS. Your help is always appreciated.
Peace and Love and Big Smiles outdoordreams


Dr. said he will approve me for my General Anxiety Disorder!

[Green Supreme]

Sweet. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

Got my license with an increase today. It came with a new paper the license last month did not have. Peace GS

[vapor]

hurdle jumpers union.....

[Green Supreme]

HC doin its thang. Peace GS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rvJwIxW1lyQ

[Green Supreme]

Another pointer for all you DG's. Go to your local dollar store and get a picture frame, that fits your license. Then take the green tape that painters use for edging. Cover all the info except your HC license number, your name and the site address, expiry date and HC person signature. That way if the cops come, or you are forced to show landlord or someone official. They only see the info pertinent to them. It keep all the rest secret.

When the cops came to my space, they took pics of the license. Wish I had done this back then. Now they have all the info and can refer back to it when they want.

If more is necessary to show tape can be removed accordingly. Screw the frame to the grow wall or door. Peace GS

ps. I did the same for all breakers related to the grow on the main and sub panels and was glad when they took pics of those

[Green Supreme]

From a dude at another site. Peace GS

My patient just got turned down from Dr Kammerman he will not be signing any renewals. Dont know what happened. But seems the feds put the fear of god into him.Dont even wanna talk about Medical Marijuana anymore. Mass emails saying you guys are on your own.
Such BS search a year for a accepting doctor, guy was 5 hrs away too. Now the search starts again. This med program is broken as long as doctors fear signing cards.

[Green Supreme]

More mess ups. Forgot to mention, they sent my license to the site address, not my mailing address. They also did not change the storage amount after my increase. Ahh competence. Peace GS

[outdoordreams]

Heard I guy got his license after only 4 weeks. They are getting faster, but not smarter.

[vapor]

I am about to cancel and upgrade we will see how they do...