Making Cold Water Cannabis Resin Extract with Microbeman

[Microbeman]

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[c-ray]

cool
how do you do your mixing?

[Microbeman]

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[Green Supreme]

Would love to see macros of your hash Microbeman. There's already a company that make bags like the ones you suggest. They are called payload bags. Seems the problem with these bags is that they allow contaminant that would normally be removed by the Bubblebags to flow through the sides. Because of the difference in density most contaminant floats and the heads go to the bottom. If the heads are on the bottom not sure why anyone would want to let anything else through. Do what works for you. Bubbleman took macros of my hash so 1/2 the experiment is already done. Hint hint. Peace GS

[Kali]

I have a set of payload bags, I dont notice any contaminant (but I didnt actually look at the stuff magnified) all that I care about is some good melty hash.

The payload bags have another problem; the seams trap a lot of trichs which is very counter-productive especially since the idea is to get more trichs out. It does however allow water to flow out faster than the bubblebags so your hands dont freeze squeezing the water out. I must admit it was about 5 years ago and I was a total amateur when i used the bubblebags; since seeing the bubbleman demo on pot tv I would like to give them another chance.

[Microbeman]

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[Green Supreme]

Here's a good place to look as an example. Peace GS

http://www.fullmeltbubble.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804

ps. sorry for the thread hijack I just want to see which way works best. Could care less who's method it is.

[c-ray]

'macros' are macro photographic images...closeups
a microscope image would be better...do you have a stereoscope? I use a led flashlight to light the hash (or bud) from above when I am checking it out under the microscope...

another question: how many runs were you doing with each batch of material and how long were you mixing for? I had a hell of a time with double beaters and everything else I used that was made of metal, seemed to me the sharp edges would shred the plant material especially when doing multiple runs

[Green Supreme]

Shovel handle. Peace GS

ps. I saw pics at Bubblemans shop taken by Joop Dumah or something like that with a scanning electron microscope. The macros Bubbleman has taken recently seem to be very similar in magnification and quality

[Microbeman]

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[Green Supreme]

Sorry I never made the title to this thread. I just want to get better at one of the things I do. I hear people talk alternate method all the time , but never get to see the product of their method. Sorry if I inferred your advocacy. Peace GS

ps. I think the different sized trichomes may have differring medicinal uses

[c-ray]

I am the one to blame, but I have just changed the title of the thread


We did only one run. Mix for 15 to 20 minutes, stir with wood every 20 minutes in 40 minute period then sit for another twenty.

ok thank you MM that's the information I was looking for
green material comes in when there is excessive mixing, especially with metal implements, multiple runs, and gaps of time inbetween runs with temperature swings so it is highly likely that you experienced none or minimal green material....but with only one run done in the manner you suggest I am guessing that you only were able to extract 1/4 or 1/3 of the extractables even though you crumbled the weed prior
if the extract is not for smoking or vaporization then there should be no concern about green material, only that there is a certain amount of cannabinoids
if you read the c-ray stylee thread you will notice that I am not using water any more in the mixing because it degrades volatile essential oils, which are important healing components of the whole package, something to think about perhaps

[Microbeman]

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[guest]

humm..

Back in the day I used to make multi-level, multi-micron dry sieve boxes with silk screens (this is in the time before water/ice extraction was used). They come in a wide variety of sizes and most any micron size you want too. They are single pieces of material, not seams, etc. One could even buy a roll of silk screen fabric...

HTH :)

[Springs]

... just as Rick Simpson does not wish to be associated with pot smokers.

In my communications with Mr. Simpson he portrayed no such disdain against myself, an avid "pot smoker"

From what I can tell Mr Simpson tends to understand that the propagandized steriotype of a "pot smoker" is a falacy and goes against his efforts to spread the power of cannabis.

There is no disconnection between the medicinal values of any substance and its consiousness effects. To disregard one or the other is as being lone or seperate is not wise.

The seperation of the cannabis movement into two sides is only hindering our progression, how can we hope to remerge main stream scociety with cannabis when the cannabis movement cannot do the same between itself.

[Green Supreme]

Respect. Peace GS

[guest]

Yea,

Springs, spoken well.

[Parabola]

it is all medical use, sometimes preventative. you know, an ounce of prevention...

[vapor]

way to tell it springs!!!
The lines between are very thin and mostly an illusion
Gallactic beaver dominater in the hole!

[Microbeman]

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[Green Supreme]

Ya theres no room for fun in cannabis. Peace GS

ps. if the people bothered by said aside were a little better educated on cannabis this may not be an issue, but I don't often worry to much about folks with their blinders on.

[guest]

blessed springs.
Onward upward.

[Springs]

Well, I spoke with him on the phone recently and he expressed that one of the barriers to the acceptance of the medicinal qualities of cannabis or hemp as he prefers to call it, is the recreational pot smokers.

I'm sure that despite this he hopes for the full legalization of cannabis/hemp.

I support the full legalization of cannabis for all uses, as I do for most drugs, including heroin. I worked in a university department and in laboratories in the 1970s which conducted studies to dispel many of the myths concerning drug use and addiction. This resulted in information being provided to many of the drug legalization organizations throughout the world.

As an aside it does not help much to promote the image of intellectual stability retained when using cannabis, when members of cannabis forums make comments indicating they were too stoned to carry out some function adequately or comment 'drool', etc. This attitude and language does provide ammunition to those who adamantly oppose legalization.



The interpretations of his sentiments can be many. We will find barriers anyplace we choose to look for them. Ultimatly are views look towards a common sight and that is were are strength lies, like we agree, there are no "recreational users", there is no need for such generalizations.

As far as promoting images of what the effects of cannabis are to those who are adamantly opposed to legalization, well firstly, I does no good to promote an image of something to someone else less it be an honest image, and secondly those adamantly opposed to the legalization of cannabis have "problems" and for us to promote anything but honesty would only perpetuate there "problems"

The effects of cannabis are anything but straight forward, thus descriptions are unlimited.

One love.

:peace:Thanks all!

[Microbeman]

True enough