Cactus heaven!

[amrad]

A pic of some of my two hundred plus Trichocereus! The picture shows mostly Peruvianus and Pachanoi, there's also a few Bridgidi in there some where. There a little over a year old from seed, and already over a foot high.

[Green Supreme]

Cactus god. You da man. Peace GS

[amrad]

Well thank you, your Supremegreeness! I love my spiney little guy's.
Mind you they are getting to be a bit of a pain to transplant, especially the Peruvianus. The Panchanoi are much better behaved, but if they get root bound will send out sucker roots just above the soil, sort of looks like they'r trying to make a run for it.

[c-ray]

that's great!
how old are those babies?

[Green Supreme]

He said they were seed a year ago. I love plantys, no matter how prickly. Peace GS

[c-ray]

oops ...wow those are big for a year old

[amrad]

Ya they'r a year old c-ray, I grow them in a closet. Under floros, 24/7, I have about six different species, the macragonos chilinensis and cuscoensis are quite a bit smaller, started them in the fall. The peyote are a year and about two inches in diameter, i have two species of them williamsis and caespitosa, the caespitosa form a large clump sending new buds out the sides, real neat.

[Green Supreme]

Nice selection. Now I want to start growing a bunch. Hmmm a cactus grow in the garage. Whadayathin? Peace GS

[amrad]

There ya go! get down and spinney! If ya need a start give me a pm. In Peru they use em for fence posts, but the real purpose is lost to antiquity, for most folks. The Shamans know that this plant harbours a protective spirit that is symbiotic with humans, hence the reason he is usually found near habitations,he protects those who care for him.

[The Cannarchist]

Can I get High?

[amrad]

Ha! Your too funny, ya man. You can deal yourself a hand so high and wild you'l never have to deal another. Thank you Mr. Cohen,
hey Canna thanks for the tip you gave me about adding just a bit of grow solution to the water when your popping beans it really helped, geez that was you wasnt it? LOL

[The Cannarchist]

San Pedro?

I'm not up on my cactii.

Had a bad selimantae(Sp?) a long time ago and I just barf on shrooms and cactii these days.....Why I'm looking for the plant version of the "Trip"

[amrad]

Ya that can happen. I had a friend that developed an incurable infection of the intestines from eating pot, this happened in Mexico and eventually he had much of his intestines removed. He has a collestime now. He thinks it was something that was sprayed on the pot, maybe agent orange? This was in the early seventies, when the U.S, government was intent on destroying the cannabis plantations.
I usually put the cactus through a blender and boil it down with lemon juice, this usually destroyes any foul bacteria and lessens the amount you have to drink, its mighty bitter.

[The Cannarchist]

DDT is the thing you were thinking of.

Neurotoxin.

Have you tried the Amanita,per your photo?

[amrad]

Not yet, they grow in my area, and i'v stumbled upon them while out fishing. Dont know, gezz the idea of walking a round with a red veinee nose sort of scares me ha ha. This supposidly is a side effect of amanita consumption, thats why santa is depicted with a red nose, wears a red and white tunic, and comes in your house through the chimmney. The idea is that santa is a Icelandic or Siberian Shaman, he gets the red nose from using amanita, his tunic imitates the red cap with white flakes of the mushroom, and houses in Siberia were entered through a hole in the roof. Also he has the power of flight, and can stop time so he can visit everyone's house on the same night. And the gifts each receive are gnosis or knowledge.
Or maybe its all bullshit and he just downs a bottle of vodka every day

[Parabola]

not DDT ...paraquat

ddt is an insecticide, they sprayed paraquat on weed to deliberately poison it.

[The Cannarchist]

Hilarious.......

Not being a Christian,I always try to be tripping on something come Xmas day.

I believe you are right there Parabola

[Parabola]

well. partially right anyway. I found this at wikipedia:

Paraquat Pot

During the late 1960s, a controversial program sponsored by the US government sprayed paraquat on marijuana fields in South America. Since much of this marijuana was subsequently smoked by Americans, the US government's "Paraquat Pot" program stirred much debate. Perhaps in an attempt to deter people from using marijuana, representatives of the program warned that spraying rendered the crop unsafe to smoke. However, independent bodies have studied paraquat in this use. Jenny PronCzuk de Garbino, [4] stated: "no lung or other injury in marijuana users has ever been attributed to Paraquat contamination".

On this topic, D.P. Morgan states in a US Environmental Protection Agency publication that: "Smoking Paraquat-contaminated marijuana does not result in lung damage as the herbicide is pyrolyzed to dipyridyl (which does not present a toxic hazard) during smoking". [5]

[amrad]

"no lung or other injury in marijuana users has ever been attributed to Paraquat contamination".


uh, yaaaa, sure! I liked them way better when they atleast attempted to be funny,like putting monkey brains in a blender, and telling us the cell damage came from Acid, Ha Ha,

[Parabola]

yeah you don't need to be a scientist to wonder how they could say smoking paraquat is harmless to lung tissue yet in the same breath that smoking marijuana is 10 times worse than cigarettes.

Nice cacti amrad. And I thought that growing cannabis was a lesson in patience!

[Green Supreme]

Got this little cactus in November. It was given to a friend who could not take it back to their country. Peace GS

[Rainha Ginga]

wow, nice peyote :peace:

[c-ray]

it's got babies!

[Augustine]

I recently bought a cactus (peruvianus?) in a Cuzco market and had quite an amazing experience. I would like to grow some eventually. You say you just have them under floros?

[Green Supreme]

Mine is in my veg room. 1400 watts. Gonna try get it closer to the lights. Peace GS

[sleeping village]

nice pictures. i have a few little vials with San Pedro and Peruvian Torch i've yet to plant...i should get on it.

[amrad]

uhhhh that is one cuute baby!!
Hey Your Greeness is that by any chance a caespitosa? It sure looks like it, the williamsis usually dont start sending off pups that early, although if it was grown outside it might be old enough to do that. In any case, looks very healthy, what a good father you be ha ha

[Green Supreme]

No idea, I imagine what you say is probably the case though. I know very little of these creatures. Peace GS

[shadowlord]

Hello all.
Have been reading a bit on mesacaline and plan on ordering some San Pedro's from bouncing bear botanicals. Should I purchase cuttings or seeds? I realize that it will be some time b/4 I can cultivate enough to accomplish much but can always buy fresh until I can provide my own.
Thanks for any input.

[c-ray]

Should I purchase cuttings or seeds?

I would get both, enough cuttings for a trip, and seeds for next time

[shadowlord]

I would get both, enough cuttings for a trip, and seeds for next time

You must be a mind reader C-ray!
I was thinking along the same lines. I think I will pitch in with a friend on some seeds and enough cuttings to start a few for growth and the rest for consumption. Although I may just buy some dried S.Pedro for immediate use while I wait for the cacti to grow. I'll have to look at the cost differences as I can afford to wait for a little while. I've never had mescaline b/4 so what's another few months or a year or so.
As long as I can find Lucy! It makes it easier to be patient when you have something to do with your time!

[Green Supreme]

Bump. Peace GS

[shadowlord]

San Pedro tea thread coming later tonight, w/ cacti cultivation to be included along the way!

[Green Supreme]

Now thats what I'm bumpin about. Thanks for sharing. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

Like Xmas today. I scored this beauty in the mail. Although I have grown large succulents before this is the biggest cactus I have owned. A big thank you to the person who donated her to me. Peace GS

[amrad]

Very nice Your Greeness!
Ummm you have something against clay pots? I'v found cactus love clay, dont mean to scold or anything. ha ha
It keeps the roots cool through evaporation, and heats up and cools down slower. Nice plant though. I see its starting to blue near the top, this should accelerate as the plant ages. Peace

[Green Supreme]

Very nice Your Greeness!
Ummm you have something against clay pots? I'v found cactus love clay, dont mean to scold or anything. ha ha
It keeps the roots cool through evaporation, and heats up and cools down slower. Nice plant though. I see its starting to blue near the top, this should accelerate as the plant ages. Peace

No I just have no clay pots at present. Will aquire one. Do I need to harden it like a cutting or can it go straight out into the sun? Thanks again. Peace GS

ps. I remember seeing cacti somewhere in coffee cans hmm. Teehee

[amrad]

Oh you are bad!!
Yes I did post pics of my collection in coffee cans, I'd go broke if i had to buy clay pots for a hundred plus cactus. But my faves I plant in clay. You should be able to put it right out side where you be. If it starts to turn a light colour, like its bleaching, you will have to acustom it to the full sun a bit slower. They were kept in my basement over winter under very low lighting.

[Green Supreme]

I took your word to heart man. Funny enough I got enough time to put it together today. How's that look? Thanks again. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

Put my peyote in my veg room . Looks like it had to reach too much for the light,so into the kitchen window for a while.Peace GS

[shadowlord]

Hello Everyone.
Took me longer than I thought to get around to it, but I finally got my cactus collection/garden started. I have a couple of Tricocherous Pachanoi or San Pedro and one T. Peruvianus or Peruvian Torch ( It's the little guy. )
Here are some Pictures of them, freshly potted.

[purplehaze2]

I guess IM going to hav to throw some cactus down. when do they bloom when there inside?

[shadowlord]

I am not sure about the Peruvian Torch but I will probably never see a bloom on a San Pedro until I am able to grow them outdoors. Apparently they ( S.P.'s ) bloom pretty rarely and almost never indoors.
But this is only what I read somewhere. I remember reading it because the writer had mentioned what a shame this was as the S. Pedro's are supposed to have very pretty blooms. Let's see if I can find a picture of one to post.

[Green Supreme]

You feeding off one of those cacti? peace GS

[shadowlord]

I have not used any of these particular cacti.
The friend who sent me the cuttings has made several cuttings from his.
I'm hoping the top will put out some pups like the other one has.
I will not be taking anything from these from years other than to propagate.
I have found a reliable source for dried cactus for extractions.

I have made tea from San Pedro's and made freebase mescaline tar via ISO extraction and can verify that these cactus do indeed have the magic in them.

[Green Supreme]

High there Amrad, just wondering how you think this cactus is doing. Peace GS

[Albi]

I saw this site and thought of you guys!

http://www.sacredcactus.com/san_pedro_cactus_potting.htm

look around its amazing!!

http://www.sacredcactus.com/ebay_cacti/house_front2.jpg

[Janosh]

Aminita has a stricknine veil stretched over the top that you might want to remove. They pick up toxins as well so a fairly safe thing to do is start out making it into a tea and give it a sip or two and wait a day or so and feel the results. If all is well proceed with caution. They grow wild around here so they get tried quite often. I have one associate that was hospitalized and in a coma for three days. They vary in potency and toxins. They're all different. A Salish Shamen Antropologist friend told me that The Viking Leader would eat one before going into battle and his creww would drink his urine. They would become beserkers. Sorry about my bad spelling.
Have fun and say hello to the aliens for me.