Sombody Steer Me N Right Direction!

[heh heh]

.I am a new indoor grower and I have 1 1000 hps 1 400 switchable and 1 275 mh I am starting from seed I dont know what kind of seeds but the bud it came from was decent I live in a apt. I dont have to worry about a landlord (he's a buddy) I have a 18 site aeroponic system from general hydroponics that the babies are starting in,a 8 site drip system a buddy made out of a big blue tupperware box a pump and tubing that connects to the "drippers @24in wide @48in long and 18-24in high I was wondering what would be the best way to grow I would like to use the stuff I have Ican make that drip thing pretty easy NEED SOME ADVISE!!! oh yea my area is @4ftby10ftby8ft high oh yea I have the babies in 2in pots now and will b going in 6in pots in drip system AM i going at this right I want free smoke and a couple of bucks wouldnt hurt

[c-ray]

do you have any experience growing?

[heh heh]

A little, most outdoors I moved to the mountains and with the weather plus i live in town now so I thought I try the hydro thing I ve done soil indoors but i didnt have the right lights!

[Irie1]

Okay. So I started 10 years back with the same Tupperware you described. They worked great. Just like you I was in an apt. in the mountains. I used one rubber maid with 2 plants in it with a 400w light and got 9 ounces! I then purchased the aeroponics system and hated it. I still to this day set people up with the rubbermaids, They are so easy and work so well. Allow lots of room for them to get BIG cause they definatley will. The 1000w should cover 3 or 4 of these easily. If you put unsexed seeds in I would go 4 to a rubbermaid, in hopes that 50% will be female. Make sure you are able to remove the plants so you can switch holes later when the are determined female. Also install an aquarium air pump in each tub to keep the water fresh. Good luck!

[Glass Man]

Keep some going in pots of soil, just in case. You've got quite a bit to learn, and things can quickly go wrong when learning hydroponics. I would highly reccomend a pH meter and a TDS meter, they make life so much easier, especially while learning.

Begin growing them under a Metal Halide. You'll use the HPS later for flowering. If you use it while vegging the plants will stretch too much. If you use the MH for flowering the buds won't get nearly as large as with HPS. I switch from MH to HPS after about the 3rd week of 12 hours of dark/light cycle, which induces flowering.

[heh heh]

Well its been 3weeks and I think I might have problems,the plants have very dense grwth but they are very short only @ 4-5 inches I switched from the 275 mh to the 400 I see more dense growth but why arnt they getting taller? REALLY thinking of going to soil!!!

[Green Supreme]

What strain? Perhaps the one you have doesn't stretch much in flower. If you aren't sure what you are growing, how do you know how its supposed to look or grow? If you keep changing everything how will you know which thing helped you. Isn't learning a trip? Peace GS

[c-ray]

did you start from seeds or cuttings...?

[Green Supreme]

Seed but he doesn't know what strain. Peace GS

[c-ray]

well if it has only been 3 weeks since you germinated the seeds then you are OK

[heh heh]

How tall (on averrage) should a plant be after 3 weeks?I know there r diff strains

[Irie1]

Well, switching to soil will only make them slow down. 3 weeks is not very long. Soon they should accelerate their growth and really take off. Are they in the hydro setup yet? Are you feeding them anything?

[Green Supreme]

Dude its speculation. Maybe a picture or 2 would help. Does it look indica or sativa dominant? Sounds indica dominant, so it probably won't stretch too much. Peace GS

[heh heh]

I have them in the aero system 4 now and I'm using "Dutch Master" liquid Nutes the guy at the store said it was better than the general hydrponics 5 part

[heh heh]

Will have some pics tommorrow

[heh heh]

One set of plants has very skinny leaves those r the ones that have been going for 3 weeks skinny leaves and light green in color the second batck is dark green with HUGE leaves and the have been going for 1 to 2 weeks and the have almost caught up with the first ones but the dont have as many leave sets

[Glass Man]

If they are looking relatively healthy just be patient and see how they do. There is a "learning curve" that you'll have to work through, like with most things.

peace,

[Green Supreme]

The light green ones will likely enjoy less food than the dark green ones. Peace GS

[heh heh]

thanks 4 all the help guys This is alot harder than I thought, my mad scientist friend that babysat my last experiment moved 2 denver so now I'm on my own! he never left the house, now I know why! Once I get this down I want to clone or somthing, I hate waiting

[The Cannarchist]

what color are your roots?

[heh heh]

white they look like the stuff you get in your rice at a chinise resereraunt "sp?" oops kinda drunk n buzzed! I started them in the general hydro circular starter type things. I will reply tomm. cant type right now not tryin 2 b rude

[heh heh]

Hey guys its been two weeks and holy crap!!I gave them a dose of nitrogen and whadda ya know they shot up FAST I have @10 in of growth in 2 weeks!!!now I'm worried they're gonna be too bushy the time they spent b4 I added nitro. they were growing out not up, now they are @ 18in and are so thick that I have to trim how should I trim from bottom or top?

[Green Supreme]

Trim from the bottom, I usually completely remove branches from the bottom 1/3 of the plant about 10 days before flower.These parts make good cuts for me. I also usually remove bud sites on upper branches all but the growing tips.Doesn't work on all plantys, but the ones it does concentrate flowering energy on tips. The results can be seen on the last Sweet Pink Grapefruit I posted.Also on the Watty Kush Lungus last posted. Pruning is good. Peace GS

[heh heh]

The grapefruit looked great but if I trim like that will that affect my quantity at harvest. Or will trimming increase the yeild by cutting out all those little branches that would only produce popcorn buds and focus the energy on the biggins'??????? I have 8 plants now 2 of the light green ones and 6 of the dark.Oh yea I dont know what they are but those dark green ones are MONSTERS! they have passed the light green DOUBLE! very thick leaves,very big and the branches are xtreamly close 2gether@ an inch apart I've never seen a plant that dense does that info help wiyh figuering out what type it is?

[Green Supreme]

Ya I 've noticed with a lot of plantys that culling the popcorn buds concentrates the plantys energy on the growing tips. Doesn't work this way with all plants, but I have noticed it does work with many. If your worried about yield, only do it to one average size planty and compare at finish. Good Luck. Peace GS

[c-ray]

I find it is more important with bushy plants, or plants that grow too tall and are lit from above, or both...some folks like to instead harvest these types in 2 stages, cutting the top parts first when they are ready and allowing the bottoms to finish another week or so

[heh heh]

Thats a geat idea C-ray i just want to harvest as much as poss. I'm gonna try to clone but I'm a little iffy on my cloning skillz. I tried it b4 with jell and a 4-5 inch cut and well.....it died b4 rooting so between my seed starts I need to get every gram I can to last till the next harvest! Oh yea green my ol lady or should I say babys mama (lol) just moved to Canada to her parents,I hope one of these days I'l be visiting my kid, I might have to give ya a holler!

[Lungus]

Ya I 've noticed with a lot of plantys that culling the popcorn buds concentrates the plantys energy on the growing tips. Doesn't work this way with all plants, but I have noticed it does work with many. If your worried about yield, only do it to one average size planty and compare at finish. Good Luck. Peace GS
Give that a try. You'll find that plant will yield just as much as the others only with big appealing buds and a lot less trimming.

[heh heh]

Here are some pics of the ladies there are 6 of them! Does anyone know what kind of plant they are by these pics ?I know its a long shot but......oh yea the one to the right is diff than others. I dont think its too bad for the first timer and in an aeroponic system. Any sugestions on training these or what about trimming?

[Albi]

flower them now

[Cannafornia]

I agree and they look bootiful too.

[Irie1]

Trim off the lower branches. Then flip the light back to 12/12. Love them, they will love you back! Great job!:good:

[lazi]

Did I hear someone complain about slow growth earlier? :)

[heh heh]

Yes you did, uhhhhh just kiddin? guess I was a eager beaver huh!

[heh heh]

So what strain are they does any1 have an idea?

[justcurios]

yo heh, ..;;.,/ aahemm , excuse me. just kidding. i belive you said these are bag seed ? was the pot decent? i grew some bag seed which was decent ant it had big leaves with wide fingers so i thought it was indica, but as they grew and matured, the fingers got skinny, the flowering process was slow, and they hermed out easy. so now i belive they are sativa dominant. which dosent suck totaly they just take a little longer and have a different buzzz. check out the "herm problems" thread in the plant clinic. that is the one i started. good luck. and looks great. message me back if you have anymore questions. later bro.

[heh heh]

Yea it was bag seed but it was good it was light green almost like someone made a mistake got a couple of pounds with seeds ect.......... so I thougt for a first grow...hey what the heck ya know!

[justcurios]

same here. but like lungus said, its all about the environment. im anxious to see if my freind ,who is groing the same bag seed, has hermie problems. later gator

[heh heh]

I think next tyme I'm definitly growing somthing BOMB! Somthing I never thought of at first, but If these are hermies and dont work out I just took a huge risk growin some commercial that I can buy for 40 bucks an oz. from any thug or college kid walkin down the street

[justcurios]

not necessarily, it will still be fresh. and you can call it your own. but if you do see hermies try to get rid of them. i had a plant that was topped once. well half of it seemed to have most of the hermies, so i cut half of it off early in the game. the oter half is doing great now. message me back and ill fill you in.

[heh heh]

Well guys I had to take out my 2 biggest babies they are male.I also think another might be. THE HORROR,THE HORROR!!

[Green Supreme]

Makes more room for the girls to grow into. Good luck. Peace GS

[c-ray]

sacrificial rites

[justcurios]

you will be glad you did it now.

[heh heh]

what a week my male total is three now and I think I really messed up the others. when I pulled the males I tried to be gentle but the roots wre so tangled i broke some of my girls roots I also drained the water and refilled with fresh water BUT I over fed them now they are all saggy and droopy I think one is too far gone.last night I flushed the system twice and cut the nutes how long does it take for them to recover and should I not add nutes or should I keep feeding them?

[heh heh]

so....

[c-ray]

how do your top leaves look, the newest leaves?

[heh heh]

very saggy and wilted but some smaller leaves on bottom branches are starting to perk up!

[gforce]

I find it is more important with bushy plants, or plants that grow too tall and are lit from above, or both...some folks like to instead harvest these types in 2 stages, cutting the top parts first when they are ready and allowing the bottoms to finish another week or so

and so this type of finishing might be good for someone who was planing on growing a few plants to 5 or 6 feet...??? i am starting some trainwreck this week...