got a question regarding labeling...

[danimal]

I have a Grandaddy x Bubba Kush female that is spectacular, I also still have the mom of the cross (Grandaddy Purple).

Would it still be a labeled backcross if I STS'd the Grandaddy over the hybrid female?





looked in my textbook and a bx was defined as the mating of a hybrid with one of its parents did not specifcy male or female but just curious as to what the general consensus is on that...

[plantbuilder]

you're a dildo

[Tug]

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PB's back...... :woohoo:

peace - Tug

[danimal]

So would that be a backcross?

[Green Supreme]

Sounds more like selfing if you're using STS. Peace GS

[danimal]

Sounds more like selfing if you're using STS. Peace GS

Well it would be a self or an S1 aka F2 if i was doing Grandaddy x Grandaddy

but im not doing that


i amd oing (Grandaddy x Bubba Kush)[FEM] x Grandaddy[Male-STS]

[Tug]

I think you have described a polyhybrid. A Bx would be the same strain.

Crossing Gdaddy x Bkush (if they are both F1's) makes an F2, then selfing to get a male and backbreeding would be furthering that process (F2 x S1). I'm not sure anyone has a name for a crossed selfed hybrid (polyhybrid?).

Where did the Bkush come from? If it's already an S1, I would think you are toying too much with mother-nature, we know selfing can produce tendancies in strains to hermie, if you are selfing to get a male, and breeding to an already selfed strain......

peace - Tug

[danimal]

Well that's the thing a BX is a mate of a hybrid with one of its parents, I am crossing a female Grandaddy x Bubba Kush with a STS-male Grandaddy. The definition of a BX in my text book is not discriminate enough on to how and in which order the mating is done. The bubba that was used in this hybrid is NOT an S1 and a verified cutting of the Pre01 Bubba aka 1998 Bubba Kush aka green pheno whatever you want to call it, THE bubba.

My grandaddy is just as verified. I am curious as to what would happen using an STS male of the mother of the hybrid to pollenate the progeny of the 1x1 hybrid.

I am interested in doin this mainly because I saw JackStraw's Jackie O x OGer's Kush, the JO was created by crossing an S1 Cali O with an S1 Jack Flash F2...using STS.


This is not the main project or cross, just a female I have that I am throwing in to my pollenation chamber along with the rest of my other females along with what I actually am workin on, was just curious as weather or not I would have a Grandaddy BX1 FEM or not...

I think you have described a polyhybrid. A Bx would be the same strain.

Crossing Gdaddy x Bkush (if they are both F1's) makes an F2, then selfing to get a male and backbreeding would be furthering that process (F2 x S1). I'm not sure anyone has a name for a crossed selfed hybrid (polyhybrid?).

Where did the Bkush come from? If it's already an S1, I would think you are toying too much with mother-nature, we know selfing can produce tendancies in strains to hermie, if you are selfing to get a male, and breeding to an already selfed strain......

peace - Tug

[Tug]

I believe a Bx is a mating of an OFFSPRING with one of it's parents, not a hybrid with one of it's parents, that would be a cross (different genetics).

peace - Tug

[c-ray]

and
usually one is using a male offspring to hit a female parent
but it can be done the other way for instance if one wanted to emphasize (bX) a super stud male

[danimal]

and
usually one is using a male offspring to hit a female parent
but it can be done the other way for instance if one wanted to emphasize (bX) a super stud male

well i would be interested in emphasizing the mother of the cross(Grandaddy Purple) by hitting a female of Grandaddy x Bubba Kush with a STS-male Grandaddy Purple...2 parts Grandad 1 part bubba sounds like a backcross to me, but anyway who cares about BX1 F2 F3, im gonna just label the bitch what it is

(Grandaddy Purple x Bubba Kush) x Grandaddy Purple STS-Fem.

what a mouthful.

[Tug]

Dude, save yourself a lot of time, and potential future hassles.
Do not just breed something because you have it and can turn it, take a proper male and a proper female and make a real strain.
There are already plenty of 'trouble' strains out there being bred by unscrupulous growers/breeders.

The world needs stable strains as part of the future of the species.
How would it be if humans bred more of our handicapped and genetically altered members, thus degrading the global gene pool? What will happen is someone will take the progeny of your cross and rebreed it, then again, and again. In the future the potential problems will show up (probably in most of the strains created) and we end up with people growing strains that are unstable/polyhybrid/hermie prone.
Besides, the chances of any of those being truly great strains are small, use nature as your guide, breed strains that have natural males as your selections, and see where that takes you, you do not want your learning curve in this area to be started with unnatural beginnings.

peace - Tug

[c-ray]

hehe...
geez tug it

[Tug]

NO?
If danimal STS's that strain and breeds it, I will kill myself...... lmao

It's not the end of the world if this guy has kids, but I still don't want to see it...... :spitcoffee:

peace - Tug

[danimal]

look this is not the main project i am jsut throwing the female selection from grandaddy x bubba to get pollenated along with the true 1x1 hybrid i am aiming to recreate which has been tested and proven and now just has extremly low germ rates.


all i wanted to know was if it was a BX or not thats all . by definition : a mate of progeny with one of its parents it is, but will not be labeled as such seeing as how the cross is being made.

[c-ray]

there's all types of bx's...which I can get into later when I have the time
no need to get lost in semantics, I have a feeling that danimal's projects are not going to cause the decline of the cannabis gene pool lol

[danimal]

there's all types of bx's...which I can get into later when I have the time
no need to get lost in semantics, I have a feeling that danimal's projects are not going to cause the decline of the cannabis gene pool lol

hey c-ray that would be great. i do not think so either, this is a side project to a side project....who knows if the beans will get cracked LOL. i said myself fuck what it is im just going to label it (Grandaddy x Bubba) x Grandaddy STS-Fem.

[Bram]

maybe Bx S2?

[danimal]

maybe Bx S2?

There was no S1/F2 at all. I did not do Grandaddy x Grandaddy


it is (Grandaddy x Bubba) x Grandaddy.