Hydrogen peroxide question, time is of the essence....

[trichome pharm]

Hi all....
Anyone here have any extensive knowledge on the different aspects and forms of H2o2 ?

I Normally use 35% food grade h2o2 for my hydroponics uses but today i found myself in a bit of a jam. My hydro shop is back order on h2o2 and i had to go to my local drugstore to inquire about other sources thereof.

Now, what i found is intended for hair tnctures and what not. The bottle is labled 30 % but when i look at the lable on the side of the bottle, the description states that the product is comprised of 9% h2o2 and stabilizers....

Can anyone shed some light onto this matter for me please ?

I have been given a nice little colony of root aphids with the clones i purchased for this crop. I am changing the tanks tonight and would like to apply the h2o2 right now to try and curb any infectious disease or virus the fuckers are carrying.

please help....

tp.

[c-ray]

from http://www.h2o2.com/intro/faq.html#4

4. What are H2O2 stabilizers and will they affect my application?

Most commercial grades of H2O2 contain chelants and sequestrants which minimize its decomposition under normal storage and handling conditions. In some applications (e.g., copper etching or cosmetic formulations) a high degree of stabilization is needed; whereas, in others (e.g., drinking water treatment or semiconductor manufacture) product purity is more important. For most environmental applications, H2O2 stabilization does not affect product performance.

The types of stabilizers used in H2O2 vary between producers and product grades. Colloidal stannate and sodium pyrophosphate (present at 25 - 250 mg/L) are the traditional mainstays, although organophosphonates (e.g., Monsanto’s Dequest products) are increasingly common. Other additives may include nitrate (for pH adjustment and corrosion inhibition) and phosphoric acid (for pH adjustment). Certain end-uses -- which depend on the bleaching ability of H2O2 in alkali – utilize colloidal silicate to sequester metals and thereby minimize H2O2 decomposition.

[Green Supreme]

Would not use the H2O2 till you know what the stabilizers consist of. Are you sure of your diagnosis. I just looked through the book Hemp Diseases and Pests. No such critter listed. Good luck. Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4519.html

I stand corrected. Peace GS

[c-ray]

a good dose of enzymes might work

[trichome pharm]

Hi c-ray.

Thanks for your educated answer.
You think that a product like hygrozyme would help ? How do enzymes affect
Aphid health ? Any more knowledge?

[c-ray]

if you are able to drain you system and spray/soak the remainder with a high concentration of enzyme like 50+mls of hygrozyme (plus 10-15mls of dr. bronners soap ) per liter of water and letting it soak in for an hour or something before adding back water, you should be able to melt the aphids if they are soft shelled insects, not sure about the eggs but maybe have to repeat spraying as the eggs hatch
then follow up by innoculating the system with beneficial nematodes and/or bacteria


from http://www.safesolutionsinc.com/Enzyme_Cleaner_Pest_Control.htm

How Enzyme Works

Insects make formidable opponents because they are protected by strong exoskeletons - hardened shells that cover them like a suit of armor and have the locomotion of a tank. It is the exoskeleton that has most challenged pest control - until now. Enzyme is the key.

Because an insect's exoskeleton is a hard shell made of non-living material, it does not grow in size with the insect's development. Therefore it is necessary for all insects to shed their exoskeletons several times during the course of their life. They accomplish this by using enzymes they create naturally to split open their exoskeleton and thus grow larger. It is during this molting phase that an insect is at its most vulnerable - susceptible to drying out or drowning since the hard shell that normally would protect them has been cast off.

The surface of every insect's exoskeleton is covered with a waxy, water-repellant patina known as the cuticle. This outer coating protects the insect from harm, and has long been an obstacle for pesticide's effectiveness - the chemicals must penetrate the cuticle in order to affect the insect, so pesticides employ a variety of volatile solvents, toxic dusts or light oils in order to cut through the cuticle and thus deliver the poison into the insect interior.

The solution to cracking the cuticle of an insect's exoskeleton was discovered through the observation of insect entomology - insects employ enzymes to escape their exoskeletons. By utilizing cultured enzymes that mimic those found in nature, a natural form of biological pesticide can be produced that has the ability to dismantle the armor of an insect instantly.

Enzyme Cleaner digests insect's waxy cuticle on contact and dismantles their exoskeleton - effectively forcing insects into immediate molting in which the protective shell is stripped.

Using enzyme-based formulas as a form of biological pest control is an ingenious play of engaging the forces of nature to our advantage. Enzymes exist throughout the insect, plant and animal kingdoms to aid in the digestion of organic matter. Arachnids such as spiders and scorpions inject their prey with enzyme; insect larvae (maggots) also rely on enzymes to predigest their food for them. Insectivore plants also use enzymes to digest insect prey. Even cellular organisms such as bacteria, mold, mildew and yeasts all depend on enzymes to aid in the external digestion of food sources. Enzymes play a fundamental role to all life because they are a necessary catalyst to speed up the chemical reaction of metabolism. Enzymes are used by living beings to break down complex structures in food digestion.

Enzymes are used throughout the food industry to pre-digest proteins and starches: baby food manufacturers add enzymes to soften the food, bakers add protease enzyme to flour to lower protein level, and brewers add enzymes to beer during fermentation to help filter and clarify the beer. Cheese makers as well use enzymes in the ripening phase of cheese.

Why Use Enzyme

Enzyme control of insects is preferable to traditional pesticide-based approaches to pest control for several reasons, not least of which is the elimination of chemical exposure risk.

Enzyme control is non-toxic and safe for people and the environment, pesticides are not. Enzyme is a desirable alternative to pesticide control because it relies on physical biology rather than on toxic substances to achieve success. Enzyme control is universal in range - all insects are affected by enzyme - enzyme works for any pest problem encountered.

Unlike pesticides, enzyme can be adjusted in strength, allowing specific insect species to be targeted or spared according to intent. For example, one can treat an organic garden with a weak concentration in order to eliminate aphids but protect beneficial honey bees.

Unlike pesticides, enzyme control will never become obsolete. Because the biology of insects depends on the creation of enzymes in order for survival, it is impossible for insects to develop a resistance to enzyme as a method of pest control. Insects have an ability to rapidly evolve an immunity or resistance to commercial pesticides within a short time, even within a single crop cycle! This leads to a costly rotation of chemical warfare. Sadly, human beings do not have the biological tolerance to the persistent pollution of pesticides that insects do, and are often the ultimate victims of pesticide. Fortunately a consistently reliable and safe solution to pest control has been discovered - enzyme.

Enzyme control achieves safer, faster and more effective results than pesticide poisons. Replace the health risk of outdated chemical pesticides with a sure-fire and completely non-toxic alternative method for exterminating pests - Safe Solutions Enzyme Cleaner.

Pest Control has long sought the perfect pesticide, an ideal Holy Grail that is totally safe for humans, yet certain death to insects, and would never become obsolete. Why this had not been found was due to a lack of exploring outside the realm of traditional pesticides - which rely solely on the application of hazardous chemical poisons to kill insects. Enzyme based biological pesticides offer just such a perfect resource for non-toxic pest control.

[c-ray]

ok having seen the picture of your room I think you would need quite a bit of the enzymes to completely flood everything, probably too pricey
the neem should do something though, should be pretty benign either way

[trichome pharm]

Yes c-ray, you really pulled through with this text on enzyme activity.
I am very interested by it and i am going to inquire much further as i think that if this is entirely true, it is the best IPM pest controll method i have seen yet....Even better than BT-i and stuff like that.

I will test on captured populations and if the findings are positive, it will become my ONLY pest managment solution. I think that the patients that use our product deserve such an approach.

About the room, paying for quality products and opting for the best solution to a situation is , in my opinion a very good way to insure success.

After you first spoke of enzymes, i called my pal from the shop and asked him if he had any left....out of luck also so he brought me some Einstein oil that i mixed with my SM-90 and coco-wet and i sprayed under the black and white of the tables you can see in the pic and in the net pots surface as well. It took me about 5 hours to take care of the room today. not to bad considering the warfare going on.

Another funny fact that will please all alchemists here, all the winged adults taht mannaged to fly with all their might towards the 1k watters instantly starts to fry and die, falling in a downward spiral back down to the plant canopy. Real, Icarus complex going on here.

ps: I have never seen any congregation of aphids under leafs and/or stems as seen in most litterature on the subject....bizzarre.....

Peace man.
T.P.