The Africa collection

[The Cannarchist]

I thought I'd crack open the seed tote for a special "Welcome back" breeding thread......

All Landrace African Sativa's

Senegalese
Sierra Leone
Mali
Nigerian
Kenyan
Congolese
Malawi

All hail the sativa!

[The Cannarchist]

The seeds....

As they are rare and I have not tried some of them out yet,it'll be 10 of each until I get 10 living seedlings of each strain.

[Sativa Science]

between the 2 of us I think we got Africa covered.
Swazi Red, Swazi Gold, and Highveld. The golds gave me 90% germ. Gonna put um out and look for some african bush...uuuuuhhhhh, I mean, nevermind! teehee.

[Roscoe]

Glad to see you're growing Malawi. I can compare notes with the master.
These are a week old. I got them from Afropips last year.
I hope they perform ok indoors.

[Organic Alchemist]

NIce project!!! Keep on rocking in the free world!
PEACE

[Marvin Martian]

Just out of curiousity, did those come from a collector or did some come from seed retailers? Not that it makes a difference one way or the other, but it would be nice to know for reference sake.

Barring inbreeding each strain, if you went crazy and crossed them all, you would have 42 unique crosses......assuming you only bred from that pool. Not realistic in many ways, but it does show that the more stock you take a look at, and the more quality selections you make from those genetics, the possiblities increase exponentially. Even if each one is not the overall, ideal plant......I am sure you will find useful traits in many of those. Good luck, and enjoy.

MM

[vapor]

landrace..... collected from home sweet home

[Marvin Martian]

Nice!

[BravoC.D.]

i dont get it. here i think its to preserve the strain but in all reality everyone wants new crosses. for what? maybe to make it more potent to some ones needs or just to see what happends. all while we forget that some of these pure landraces are in fact disappearing.
it a sad state of affairs something that started out as thousands of open air pollination for selection is now dwindling down to a few seeds. i want to say to those who are in fact cross are very serious in what they do and are picky about their male and females. i feel vic* had hit it on the nose by the way he did things and brought it upon us to learn from what he did.

far off subject but i wanted to put that out in the open. it's funny as i write away it feels like i've said this b4 i know i've heard about keeping landraces alive, but i rather see it done by the thousands.

[Marvin Martian]

Preserving landraces and doing crosses are not mutually exclusive events. I am quite positive that TC will take steps to assure those landraces live on. He may inbreed them one more time and make his selections from those progeny using a fair number of plants. On the other hand, is it prudent to grow out hundreds or thousands of plants the first trial just to find out the strain does not meet your needs? I guess my point is this....it may appear that the pictures shown (# of beans) are a small stash of those genetics, but each plant will contains genetic information that will not express itself in each individual plant, but will show up as variation within offspring. So, if TC decided to further inbreed the plants he grows out from each respective variety, he could quite feasibly grow out 1000 specimens of each if that is what it takes to meet his goals. I am not sure of his intentions, but at least this should illustrate the potential is there if that is the route he chooses to take.

MM

[The Cannarchist]

The Landraces will just be inbred via open pollonation to increase the seed stock,this time around. And to have a look see......

I'd rather do it by the thousands as well,BC.D ,but you know how it is....

I've shared out all of the Mali,Sierra Leone and Senegal seeds but have retained 100 of each for storage/Gene bank deposit.

Seedlings are just showing,BTW.

[The Cannarchist]

For the record...

The Mali,Senegal,Siera Leone were a kind gift from a Norwegian member of the old CW. He travelled there a year ago .The seeds were selected from Bud he personally evaluated and smoked. He made the initial selections. Thanks friend,you know who you are......

Isn't life great sometimes.

[BravoC.D.]

it's nice to know that u choose to preserve a plant that conservatives* would not like in this world that's starting* to rot. marvin i agree each plant having different genetic traits. that's why it would be a better to open pollinate all to have twice as more. yes it will lead to f'2'3's ect but this is what the plant love to do in the outdoors and adapt to it's climate region.
if u all could it would make a lot more sense to move to a place that doesn't have so many laws on the plant we all choose to grow for whatever reason. i bid u great luck in whatever u try to accomplish* cc. i just wanted to state how i feel about the true landraces that still exist in small numbers.
it's like a scientist said landrace* sativa's can not be stablized but the tastes can be narrowed down to your choice. enjoy the beans cc and the rest that got gifted. bravo

[lucke]

man i jelous of that line up!! im planing some traveling later this year and hope to discover a few landrace beans to bring home, at least i hope.lol
good luck with your project & hopefully youll post some pics for us to droll over.........peace....lucke

[Marvin Martian]

Yeah, all those african strains in one place are enough to make a guy pound his chest and yell like Tarzan. :D

[The Cannarchist]

We'll they have all popped that are going to.Most now @ the 2-3 leaf phase.I'll take a pic of representatives of each for you to see the super thin blades on them already.(I'm not risking pics of all of them this time.........just in case!)

I'm most interested in the ones from Mali as that is north of where most west African plants are grown.And is a desert environment except along the Niger river basin.

I'm actually having fun now after the last few months of stress and losses...

Ya can't keep a good plant down!

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Hey hey whats going on here???

I will upload some pics when I get the video on my HD. I guess the Mali one to be the most potent.... And Senegalese a good relaxing herb..... Have you smoked anything from this region before?

Will you have them in or outdoor?

ALBI

[Mais]

Cannarchist, how is this grow going? Would love to see some shots or get an update... what a beautiful selection of genetics you have to work with.

[dpn]

has anybody heard of the magic black african? Or been lucky enough to find some seeds?...

[The Cannarchist]

Hello Mais,

Due to some political considerations...........oops!

I have passed this on to the apprentice.He is one of the finest growers,and loves the plant......he will show them when the time is right,

Strange times for all of us.Best safe than sorrow.

[caddis]

Holy cow. Whatta line up. Best of luck goes out to the app.

Looking forward to the finish!

caddis

[Lrus007]

hey want to send some of those
halle berry seed's.. the oprah 1's hermied
lol

[ndnguy]

has anybody heard of the magic black african? Or been lucky enough to find some seeds?...Havn't seen no sign of that beast in years , that shit will make your head explode and then some ,completly destroyed me the only few times I smoked it. Would be willin to tangle with her now tho I'm all growed up.:bongin: :exhale: :drool:

[The Cannarchist]

Bet you still land up flat on your face with a full "whiteout" and the world spinning.....HeHe

[caddis]

Hey Mr Apprentice, UPDATE please. You know, what is growing short and bushy, what is raising the roof etcetcblahblah, oh yeah, are their any stinkers?

TIA

[vapor]

haha i will get some pics soon!

[The Cannarchist]

About time!

THX V

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

:yeahthat:

[caddis]

:rollj: :joint3:

:popcorn:

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

stoner memory

sorry for the bad quality haha i gave up

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

some more

[Green Supreme]

Respect Albi.Nice work

[Agent-Smith]

looks good albi/vapor/TC??? Whoever you are, nice pics bro :respect:

[vapor]

hahaha i am on vacation i will get some pics at the first of sept!!! peace!

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

yeah stoner memory

I forgot in my num head to tell you that the pics are from Mali, Senegal, Gambia and Sierra Leone. I went seedhunting there for over 2 months. This is whats crackin at Vapors/TC lab.

:rasta2:

[Alaska]

Thanks albi and get with it vapour!


Alaska

[BravoC.D.]

i want to say there not even using nutrients to flower them ladies. from what i see they have to top the right? from what i've grown outdoors plants usuallyshoot straight up instead of the award side way shoot. more so from a sativa and it staying that short and bushy shows them people no what they are doing. the herb looks too dry from the dry heat over there. no one has asked what were the highs like?

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

nutrients? The costal farmers used fish-skin and dried seaplants. Cow shit was used by most. As the "soil" is very sandy and contains high level of salts. I met one guy that used dry phosporus chemical.And chickenshit...they used...

look at that pic from sierra. If you get reborn as a holy cow you end up here :p

yea they "topped" and bent them alot. Look at the seedlings at pic 3

The knowledge of growing was very variable. I found sensi(seedless) 3 times. Herbalists. Pollen and males didnt consurn the comercial. Remember that money rules here. Told them that the tourists would pay double to get seedless.

will talk more about the highs later, try to find some pics with trees....

[The Cannarchist]

I tug my forelock to you Albi.

They are being done in Bc as we speak.

[caddis]

Hi Albi, And welcome! Thanks for sharing pics of places I probably won't visit, and doubt the Discovery Channel will ever go....

What was the trip like when it came time to eat and sleep?

How far south did you go?

What did you think of the highs from the different areas, and grow styles?

Hope you don't mind the questions, but you have been on one HELL OF AN ADVENTURE!

Cows eating the ganj. Sacred eh?

Take care, caddis

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

thank you all

Cannachrist; :woohoo:

hola caddis. People were very friendly, I dont know if it had anything to do with the slab of lebanese lump I brought with me or what. Place to sleep was never a consurn as long you had a moskito nett. The food was fantastic Domeda(chicken/peanutbutter), Benagin(fish n rise spiced up to max) blah blah if you dont mind peppers and spice this area will fit your stomac. Actually I've started making this at home too...

Have anyone tasted Butterfish?!? Butterscoth Hawaiian x Blowfish? LOL Its one of the best fish I ever had. No bones and just yummy(its the 2 big ones on the pic). Shrimps were so big I doubt you can find bigger than this. Its a matchbox.

Southest was outside Freetown Sierra, deepest was Bamako in Mali.

I have many stories to tell -dont know where to begin...

As for the highs I have to find some more ganja pics:teeth:

Imagine that last sunset pic soaring high

ALBI

[Agent-Smith]

nice pics Albi

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

:hijack:

[Glass Man]

I'd love to see Africa.

I've got some Early Swazi seeds from Doc Gthumb. It was the first sativa that I tried and I screwed up with the pH and they didn't do very well, but I was smart enough to make seeds from it.

Do any of you guys know what kind of high it produces? I guess that my seeds are as good as the ones Doc sent since it's not a hybrid, correct? They germinate fine, and I'm growing some of it outdoors now. I believe (have to check my plot map to be sure) it's budding pretty heavily already, which would make sense since it's called "Early". Doc markets it as the only 100% sativa which will finish in southern Canada (or something close to that). I've thought that it might be good to breed with other sativas to shorten the finish time. Any thoughts on that?

Hey Albi,
I wonder why they grow their plants so bushy. Do you know? Seems like it would be more productive to grow big, tall plants. Do they grow different varieties in the same location? Who do they sell it to? Is it a cash crop that is smuggled to Europe or somewhere?

Peace,
GM

[Sativa Science]

Wonderful pics and stories Albi... Highya Glass...
I have no experience with the early from the Dr., but I have been lookin into some swazi that have been finishing in 12-12.5 weeks which is def early for pure sats...at least, IME.. they no doubt love to produce lots of wild out of everywhere branches, good part is they also produce flowers all the way back to the main stalk... very clear long lasting creative,daydreamy buzz...the jury is still out on the taste, just can't place it... should make excellent breeding stock...maybe a golden trio..LOL
You should be well pleased how they perform out under Sol for ya...take it easy

[Glass Man]

Thanks SS,
I'll let you know how the "early" version goes when I harvest and also when I get around to trying it indoors again too. I believe Doc claims it'll finish in 60 days, it my memory is correct.

peace

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Hola

60 day swazi? Wow.

Glass Man: You are right. As I said the knowledge was very variable and the comercial is badly cultivated the plants are not able to show themselves as the space between plants are too small. I was told they had a season that they could veg them longer I think it was after the raining period. Dig a hole in the ground and mix fish skin and chicken compost, after 3 big hand of seeds water 2 times a day. 10-15 weeks later 2 meters high and they cut it down and dry it in the sun.

In Casamance in the south of Senegal there were hundreds of comercial grows as well as some crazy herbalists. I obtained the "Buddah" there and it is some realy daydreamy anti axiety ganja. I gave it a 7 in potency it will intresting too see what Vapor/Cannachrist says. The yield sucks I think but lets wait till september 1st!!

The Sierra is some kind of related too the buddah as for highs but more psycidelic mabe. I could havest myself in one garden there at a nice muslim compound I stayed at. Smells terpentine/alcohol/incense??

I cant wait for the Mali!!!! I gave it a 8,5 and 9 in potency and have no ceiling! Very different from the costal weed. Creeper. A dogon priest hooked me up and scared the shit outa us!! He had this show where he cut his arm of and shit and a guy fired at him with a rifle. Minutes after he wake up and his arm was fine hahaha. Dogon weed step back!! LOL :laughing:

Hows it goin there Vapor?

ALBI

[vapor]

shwing got into the bush today!!!

here is some nigerian...

[vapor]

smoke break...

[plantbuilder]

i haven't seen a pic of nigerian since HT in '89 lol
thanks mon
peace
pb

[vapor]

random african pics for albi....!

[vapor]

more....

[vapor]

more...

[c-ray]

hey I recognize some of those pics from high times december 1992

[vapor]

thats bryan adams in the bubble shirt!!!

[Glass Man]

vapor,
Those shot don't appear to be in Africa, are they? Sorta looks like my neighborhood!

What's the goop of the razor? Is that the butane extracted oil everyone talks about these days?

Thanks for the photos:)


peace,
glass

[Agent-Smith]

What's the goop of the razor? Is that the butane extracted oil everyone talks about these days?


No, it's ear wax :D

[vapor]

the goop is sweetblue vision bho...

the africans are not in africa ,that is right..
just a wee experiment to see what they do out this way..
they will be taken into a greenhouse to finish peace..
thanks albi there is some loverly smell coming through on the stem rubs!!!

[joe6pack]

hey vapor,

awesom pictures man. I'm really excited to see how things turn out with those big africans - you must have a big greenhouse to finish them in I hope.

that nigerian looks to be a winner - she's pretty well budded up already - looks like it will finish outside with out issue and nice and low too. is she an outflowering strain?

-joe

[The Cannarchist]

Love it!

[DOZEE]

loven the sativa

[Alaska]

Esta Muy Bueno!


Beautifatisimo


A

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

WOW im speechless

Nice Vapor!! Back from holiday and I see this....... :high:

Seems like that nigerian is an auto?

Look forward to the next update.


Thank you you made my day

ALBI

[outdoordreams]

Wow, what a great thread............................

Vapor taking those into a greenhouse, you rock............

[The Cannarchist]

I was informed today that the RCMP took them all into custody....A sad day..

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

:cry:
:shocked:

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

hey vap you ok?

[The Cannarchist]

He's fine Albi,was not there,and the folk looking after it were not charged as they told the RC's that it was "Stuff I left behind that they had no idea was there..." It worked as I thought it would.Just hoped that the RC's had reckoned that I had gone and nothing was going on in the old place....I want to find out how they gained access though.....

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Good to hear everythings ok

This is what the RCMP is using there money at? They should go help/rescue/whatever instead.


Set up some fox traps

ALBI

[Green Supreme]

Gained access?They probably just walked rght in.They already knew where to look.Peace GS

[Green Supreme]

No traps please.We don't need cop blaming weed people for counter terrorism.Peace GS

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Heard that pigflesh make good compost. Rich in nitrogen and vitamin B-1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16293406&dopt=Abstract

[Tug]

The RCMP eh?
In the words of Axel W. Rose, 'Got nothin' better to do, and I'm bored'.

Weed is a victimless crime, growing should be made legal, and (if at all) the only illegal part should be selling commercial quantities, myself as a (somewhat) commercial grower, I sell to my friends, and it never hits the street.

peace - Tug

[Roach]

bah, think my heart stopped beating for sec there :cry:

[vapor]

they only got 84 plants and NO Charges peace ps i love CANADA

[Agent-Smith]

That's really good to hear, I hadn't even seen the post about the bust. It sucks but what are you gonna do? Damn governments

[vapor]

dont worry kut...
we have learned to keep things well spread out, so no real damage is done.{plan for 1/3 of them being hit by popo..}
RooR, althought tug left his unobtanium here till our next meeting, it is fun..

[c-ray]

moved the bho chat over here:

https://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=2162

[The Cannarchist]

Damn Hijackers get everywhere these days!

[Tug]

Sorry for the hijack.

[bopper]

Sorry to hear of the theft. We're glad that none were charged.

Best,

bopper

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Will hatch a few Swazis to get this thread going...

Anyone else with africans for the winter???

Congo?


ALBI

[caddis]

Will hatch a few Swazis to get this thread going...

Anyone else with africans for the winter???

Congo?


ALBI

Hi Albi, Would your Swazi be of the "red beard" fame? Best of luck and looking forward to some nice skinny leafs. What's your Swazi flower time?

I'm gonna be giving some Malawi Gold a run along side either Mango Haze or some Nevilles Haze.

viva le skinnie leafs

[Green Supreme]

Got 2 Congo seedlings. Will take some pics and post this week. Peace GS

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Caddy; Yes Red Beard. 11 weeks I think. Theres also mixed in a little "streetweed" seeds from the same area so its not pure red beard.

GS; what congo?

Good luck to you too guys!!

ALBI

[caddis]

The "streetweed seeds" should keep you on your toes with a little variety.

Albi, have you ever had the chance to run any of the "commercially" available African genetics? Such as Malawi, or how about Transkei?

Taker easy, caddis

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Durban Poison great taste but the high was kinda "cheap" and yield middle.

I like that anis/lacorice smell in cannabis :kind:

Have some friends thats doing Malis and Senegalese.

Next up will probably be ACE. Good people...good genetics...

[Green Supreme]

Congo came from ACE Albi I think you'd like it. Peace GS

[Tug]

11 of 12 African Buddah sprouted.... soon......

peace - Tug

[Bram]

I got 3 ickle NIgerians freshly sprouted. pictures later.

[caddis]

3 ickle NIgerians

Good extract day?

Help the slow, old guy, whatcha really got? :beer:

tug, sweet plantlings! Can you hear the tribal drums yet? wfdoggies.

[Bram]

well, if you read my post above, it says I have 3 baby nigerians :p thats it for afrikan babys in my space right now.

[caddis]

:joint3:

8 ickle MAlawi GOlds started their journey today. Tallyhoooo the game is afoot!!

caddis

[Bram]

schweet. got anything else cooking there caddis?

[caddis]

A couple stooped long flowering Hazes. A nice Grapefruit slut to accept loads from all comers...how'bout you?

[Tug]

11 Buddah outgrowing their homes and about to be T/P'd....

weedoggies.... lol

peace - Tug

[Bram]

I cracked Kandahar, Nigerian, Sugarwarp, Dutch5 (Dutch x NL5), NL5 x NL1, Kodiak Gold, GG#2 x Highland Mango , and HIghland Mango F2's. going to germ out another 6 or 7 flavors in the next 2 or so weeks. I wants to find me some special moms.

[Green Supreme]

Man thats a lot of labelling.Good luck with that. Peace GS

[caddis]

It's going to be a nice spring. :tokie:

[caddis]

Highland Mango?

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Yes, highland mango???????????what?

Swazis are going slow... what temps are you guys using?

hey Tug; good luck on those Buddahs...I have some friends that are about to flower some. Very calm , you have to try to hit with something to get that flowering time down..........?


ALBI

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Nigerian?

From where?

[caddis]

Malawi Gold start....a happy seedling makes a happy head.

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

I raised the temp but still slow growth on the swazis.

I laughed at GS with his slow congo pics, now I have the same problem myself!

ehhheeheh....

too much light mabe?? anyone? hmmmm

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

Tug?

How are the Buddas going?

[caddis]

Hi Albi, My sats seem to be ok with mid 70's during lights on and mid to upper 60s during lights off...

Malawis.

[Tug]

Great Albi.... 11 of 12 sprouted and growing vigorously, first nutes yesterday.
Some like this, some 50% taller, not sure if it's sex or growth pattern yet.
About to be T/P'd so we will soon see.

Can you provide some details as to the origins/characteristics of this strain?

peace - Tug

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

..........

Casamance in south senegal is a territory thats been taken over by seperatist millitary movement to controll the area. To get in I'd have to buy a crate of brown gin and hook up with some local semi gangster. We drowe in his taxicab and "bribed" us thru the checkpoints which where controlled by junkies with rifles. When we finally got there you could see acres on acres. It seemed like you where an idiot if you not were growin weed to profit you family. First I stoped at some big commercial ones as my gangsterguide had to meet his buddies, but I quickly understood I had to look somewhere else. Good they didnt got angry when I asked for better stuff, tried to explain what I was looking for...After much jabajaba I met some shamans/rasta/herbalists that even had the knowledge to grow sensi(seedless). Had some very nice convercations. Old men can make you laugh!!!hehehe Here I collected buddah and 2 others.

When asked about Buddah name, it was because of its daydreamy, still focused high. Good the car had secret pockets to bring it back. Smoked it alot. One Rasta called Million said most of the genetics there where from ghana and came in the 60's. He was talking very highly about ghanan herb. He also told the same story I was hearing everywhere about a "Colombian" that came there in late 80 and the 90s.

First when I saw them growing(in africa), they seemed pretty uniform like a xmas trees. Have some friends that are flowering some now and they report the same as you. Will soon have a look and will post some pics.

As for smells I cant remember. I have some written down somewhere mabe look tru videos.


ALBI

[Tug]

Wow, thanks Albi. I salute you for spreading such great genetics.
That's quite a venture, I bet you could tell some stories that would make us shake our heads in wonder.

I love to hear the origins of strains, people do amazing things for good pot. I will post pics as soon as they are sexed and flowering.

peace - Tug

[spacegrass]

nice info Albi thanks for the backstory :tup: can't wait to see how they turn out

sg

[Green Supreme]

Thanks for the things you do Albi. Glad you are here. Peace GS

[plantbuilder]

thank you

[caddis]

boys....

[caddis]

The finer sex.....

[caddis]

fuk ...forgot something.

[Parabola]

sweet. you gonna do a malawi x grapefruit?

[caddis]

Hi P, You got it brother!

[Green Supreme]

Now that sounds delectable. Might know someone who wants to try that when you're done. Good luck. Peace GS

[caddis]

You got it mang, you're first on the list.

Thanks for making it possible.

[caddis]

nanners :violin:

[The Cannarchist]

Bummer......Still I'd run it through the bubble bags.

[Green Supreme]

Looks like some sativas. Yup could have nanners? Are they the outta control ones or the kind you can pick off? Fingers crossed for the latter. Peace GS

PS. which strain?

[caddis]

The latter!!!! At least so far. Malawi #5. Slower to flower, lotsa little leafs in the bud. Not my keeper by growth standards, but the real test will be in da head....

Take care, caddis

[Bram]

Looking good mang. HOw do they sniff?

[caddis]

Cinnamon and other exotic spice that brings visions of trips to come.

Tried some off a broken branch today, very visual. Needs more oomph, maybe a few more weeks will cure that.

[Bram]

sounds awesome. i hope you made more beans of it.

[outdoordreams]

Well I lost the Kenya beans during germination to mold.......? Why would these seeds mold and all the other seeds in the same area, container, treated the same way not mold? Oh well Ill try more Kenya beans later..........

The Dogon Priest seeds are very nice and starting to branch!!!!The first of all seeds this year to show this!
The Sengal Buddah are looking good.
The Loas seedling is tall and skinny!
The Seirra Leon are looking good too.
The Malawi beans doing good aswell!

Should be a tasty harvest this year with many highs to be enjoyed!

Thinking of crossing the above to the WattyKush, and SweetPinkGrapefruit, and maybe F-13!
Ill update with photos soon enough! Some of these plants are going under tarps within the next few weeks!

Thanks to the kind people who pass along great genetics for all to share!
Peace outdoordreams

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

oh you got dogon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the new laotian

:joint:

[vapor]

wicked outdoordreams!!!

[Bram]

sweet. it will be nice to see some pure sats finished under natural light insteada HPS.

[Green Supreme]

GS meditates on ODDs garden. Ohmmmmmm. Envisioning beauty for you Bro. Peace GS

[The Cannarchist]

Not to worry ODD,AF got 6 Kenyan to pop out of about a 100 seeds,probably be a cut or two around on your next visit.

[Green Supreme]

I wonder if tug killed those Buddhas. Hmmm. Peace GS

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

yea me too

the last buddhas I saw, was flowering forever, poor yield(indoor) but under some sun I think they will blow up

get down that flowering time

kandahar dwarf could do a good job

[Green Supreme]

Ya go Albi. Peace GS

[outdoordreams]

The one Dogon Priest plant is so sexy..........It is by far the most branched plant I have, and it may be the most vigorous, it is really nice looking, cant wait to show pictures soon!

Anyone know which of these strains is going to be the shortest in the end?

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

wish I could tell you man

[The Cannarchist]

I'd say the Dogon as it originates from futher north than the rest.The Dogon live at 13 North whilst the West african coastline as around 5-6 North.Using my flowering latitude calculator the Dogon should be quicker by two weeks or so.On another site I saw a Senegalese flower for 20 weeks so I'd reckon on 16-18 for the Dogon.

BTW the Dogon is only surpassed by the Laotian in vigor....

I've got a few of the Dogons starting to smell exquisite on the Stem rub.....One male is going to be a beast and has a very strong smell.

:yay:

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

:high: nice to hear!

hope you figure them as its the best african pot I ever smoked

creeper and alert , something for your thoughts..........no ceiling.


I wish I could do her myself

Mr. Jealous

[The Cannarchist]

It's going to be a while.....but I'll send you some Bubble hash off them Albi....:kisses:

[c-ray]

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/dvarvel/abc.gif

[outdoordreams]

Thanks Cannarchist, that really help me out................Where do get a latitude calculator? Down loaded the latest version from Microsoft today!hahahaha

This means Im going to have to start tarping them ASAP! I might have to even bring them in to finish............Now that will be crazy!!!!!!!

Peace outdoordreams

[c-ray]

apparently that map ^^^ is no good...we'll try and find another but for the time being just ignore it

[Green Supreme]

I think there is a latitude calculator in R.C.Clarke's Marijuana Botany book. Peace GS

[The Cannarchist]

They live just below the M of Mali on that map.

And I have to correct myself as thats the same latitude as Senegal and Sierra Leone.

I think we are in for the very long haul ODD......Someones got to do it!

[nuggdigger]

This is the google earth image of that part of Africa. I put markers at 6N and 13N so we can imagine a horizontal band through that area. Hope i got it right..google earth is a great way to fly over future od grow areas from the old armchair..lolol

[The Cannarchist]

....

[The Cannarchist]

The Dogon live on the Falsise(Escarpment) de Bandiagara

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

I was never in "dogon-land"

just the area around bamako

but the dogon people were everywere

and this crazy shaman priest dressed in full blue suit, and called himself for the "devil in the blue dress" carrying a bird mask. He had a constant grin on his face telling me I was looking for something....he was right

the next day when I was eating at "mamas" he showed up interuptedly and invited me to a show he was having later that evening. Little did I know what to happen...

I followed him to his "wagonshop" and fell in love with one of his old carved bird statues. He had old old sodma voodoo shit statues with real blood and nails... I stayed there 5 hours haggeling and went out back smoking now and then in his safe spot. When I went out of weed he offered a big roll in a newspaper(100-200g)."Harvested yesterday. You will like it."

and from there everything was adjusted steps up up up

I was so high

Complete dark outside, a lot of drums, dancing, drinking, smoking

the show; people screaming like they were dying, the shaman run around crazy with a blade and show it...screaming. Suddenly he cuts his one arm off and people are so afraid they scream even more.... he commands one of his helpers to shoot him with a loaded rifle. BAM! Kaos!!!!! I was flipped!!

After mabe a minute later he was covered with a blanket and then he raised up(!!!!) and resurected from the dead.

I was so scared. LOL

Later the party was crazy

Had to get drunk as fuck to forget the shit that just happened

this is the seeds story

never saw the priest again

[The Cannarchist]

You don't mess with the Juju .

[Green Supreme]

Wow who needs hallucinogens. Peace GS

[c-ray]

freaky

[The Cannarchist]

....

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

no no. that looks like some tourist crap

much more primitive old and dusty with rusty bent nails in the heart and the head. human hair and some dark spots all over that looked like blood

I joked on how much it costed but he said that I couldnt pay up for it. Too costy he said with a serious yap.

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

http://www.myjoyonline.com/news/200706/5758.asp


NEWS IN GHANA

MAGIC TURNS BLOODY


A Togolese who pitted his magic against gunpowder paid with his life at a magical show which turned bloody at Adukrom in the Eastern Region on Thursday night.

The magician, Kofi Brugah, alias Zamba Powers, arrived from Togo barely two weeks ago and mesmerised audiences at Asamankese and other villages, after securing the relevant permits to put up shows in the Region.

Last Thursday he was at it again at Adukrom on the Akuapem Ridge and after a sensational start, earning him wild applause for conjuring a number of items, including sweets and money, for distribution to the audience, Brugah claimed he had magical powers to withstand gunshots.

He then produced a rifle and challenged a volunteer to step forward.

After a tense moment of silence, a gentleman stepped forward from the crowd and Brugah handed him the gun, stood upright and asked the volunteer to press the trigger.

Boom! Horror of horrors! There lay Brugah in a pool of blood screaming and pleading to be saved.

As the crowd scattered in utter shock and panic, the man who had pulled the trigger quickly disappeared.

With the assistance of others, Brugah

[vapor]

wow

[Green Supreme]

Ask and you shall receive. Peace GS

[The Cannarchist]

When I lived in Nigeria, the Nigerian national soccer squad would not play without their witchdoctor being present.I remember the squad claiming one day that the Ghanaian team had a witchdoctor who had placed a curse on the Nigerian team before a big match........They all refused to take the field.....until the team witchdoctor managed to get the most famous "JuJu" practitioner in the country to make up a potion for them all to drink.They claimed the potion would stop the bad magik from the Ghanaian witchdoctor.

They still lost.....

[outdoordreams]

These Dogon plants are very special! They almost looked freakish yesterday morning when they where bent over looking for the first rays of sun!
Nice story Albi, makes growing these even more interesting!


I cant believe Im going to have to bring these indoors to finish..........alot of work, should be very rewarding after the 20th week!

[The Cannarchist]

Should be starting to grow fast around now.How many leaf blades are showing

[outdoordreams]

Good question, Ill have to count.............It really is the pure size of the leaves that is amazing!

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

for you people that have Dogon seeds I will recomend reading page 16-20 in Drunvalo Melchizedek's "The ancient secret of the flower of life"

I can see 2 lines; Sirius-A and Sirius B and there also a killer pheno called "Nommo"


Peru-Dogon connection

Mabe find a Peruvian bride?



Im on some flyin sativa here...............:laugh2:

:exhale:

[The Cannarchist]

I thought that this would interest a few.:joint:

http://www.unesco.org/most/dslaniel.htm

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

great!

[Parabola]

a friend just brought some kenyan beans home. I'll let y'all know how they turn out.

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

a friend just brought some kenyan beans home. I'll let y'all know how they turn out.


good to hear man


how many do you plan to start at once?

[Parabola]

hey albi,

We'll just do a few at a time to keep it manageable.

[guest]

Ask and you shall receive. Peace GS

Id like a new set of tits for my wife and need 5200 canadian. ?

[outdoordreams]

No Dogon Priest boys:Noooo:
Only Sierra leon and Malawi and Sengal Buddah............
Very interesting watching these beauties flower!
Watty is getting tarped this week, and pollination will be happening soon!

[The Cannarchist]

I have him.:D

And a very rare Laotian Dad as well:D :D :D

[Green Supreme]

Boys rule. Just kidding. Peace GS

[Bram]

but they do.....

[outdoordreams]

Cannarchist.............:worthy:

[outdoordreams]

Sengal Buddah, male with seeds..................What should be expected????Can we still use him?

[The Cannarchist]

I'm afraid not ODD.

No hermis allowed.

We got more seed.

:farm:

[outdoordreams]

These Pure Sativa, are just amazing..........the smells are top notch. The growth structures are true Sativa genetics!!!! Going to be alot of work for such a small yeild! Should be worth it though! Good thing Im not paying for electricity!

[hazedaze]

mmm cant wate to see what you come up with ....:)

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

hey hey

hows things going there

any clean males/fems ??

DOGON! DOGON!

:farm:

[Green Supreme]

Nommo nommo. Peace GS

[zlessley]

wow.... wow.. so jealous of you guys.. we're living off of inbred herb here in MT, the best we've got is maroc x afghan lol, and that's from an inbred dutch afghan

[caddis]

Sooo, dogon priest = Mali ? yea or nea. Did anyone actually puff any?

tia

[Monseigneur Stroganoff]

best smoke I had down there
strong thai effect-out-of-your-mind+grin
TC did try to find something in the seeds but i think there was hermies and low yield

Ginga should have tried them under the sun

I dont know if theres some seeds left

[outdoordreams]

Ive got a few Dogon seeds left.:shh:

[The Cannarchist]

Me too

Need a better population size........Story of our lives!

[caddis]

.....but did any get puffed? Or did the mounties smoke them and not give a smoke report.