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joe6pack
09-05-2006, 02:45 AM
just wondering if I did a sog grow in soil using those 6" square planters would it work?

and if I just took rooted clones and put them in soil and flipped how tall would they (50/50 indie sat mix) get?

Green Supreme
09-05-2006, 02:49 AM
Depends on root mass of clone and clone size.
Also type of light being used
Without that info I'd guess 1-1 1/2 foot mark.Peaced GS

joe6pack
09-05-2006, 03:01 AM
ok GS

I root my clones in RW cubes. I was thinking transplant into soil when they just show roots out of the bottom of the cube. I'd grow them in my cabinet under a 150 watt hps and some floros heres a link to a pic.

http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/attachment.php?attachmentid=417&d=1146859234

it's pretty small in there - 24" long x 15" wide x 29" tall - I've been doing 2 plants in 2 gallon DWC buckets with scrog in there with good results...

but I'd really like to maybe grow more than 2 plants/2 strains. I was thinking I could fit 8-10 of those planters in there and just go for a sog grow...

tell me what you think.
-joe

Agent-Smith
09-05-2006, 03:06 AM
Well Joe, I know my hydro is much different than yours but my girls go in with no veg time and they're ending up around 22-27" tall. I think you'd probably get about 15-20" with soil.

Green Supreme
09-05-2006, 03:26 AM
I would veg plants till 6 or 8 inches before flipping.The idea being to get as close as safe to light.If you really have a 50/50 plant it probably won't stretch double,especially as you are in soil now.Good luck man.Peace GS

c-ray
09-05-2006, 04:46 AM
do you know how much the mother plant stretched?

those 6" square pots are going to limit your yield, if you're going to flower clones in soil(less) why not give them a bed of soil(less)?
with a bed you can get creative with the plant spacing

Indica Sativa
09-05-2006, 04:50 AM
http://www.advancednutrientsmedical.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=11803

http://pictures.marijuana.com/gallery/showalbum.php?aid=1002&uuid=1394

These should help ya out =] Probably the best beds I have ever seen.

GrowGreen
09-05-2006, 05:52 AM
I would listen to them ^^^

SOG works best in a soil less medium. Pots of Hydroton or true Aero works best.

If you insist on going with dirt in small pots, I can help you with what not to do..

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c-ray
09-05-2006, 06:08 AM
coir mixes are nice too

joe6pack
09-05-2006, 10:43 PM
ok guys - yeah I could go soilless for sure - I'm a big fan of coir, perlite, and worm castings mix.

I wanted to go with single planters as some plants will start/harvest earlier than others.

What about if I used something like bushmaster (same as phosphoload and superbud) that is supposed to stop vert growth in it's tracks?

Anyways --- maybe I'll just build a bigger cabinet and then I can grow more DWC buckets.... :hmm:

-joe``

Tyr
09-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Hey Joe, I ran some soil SOG a few years ago.In the 6" square planters. It wasn't too bad , but I soon switched over to a soilless medium of 70% promix & 30% coir. Still using that mix to this day, though I'm thinking of going to straight coir or a 90/10 coir/perlite mix. I have switched to Sterlite tubs rather than the small planters also.
I guess my point is soil SOG can be done . Stretch is obviously strain dependent. Some strains can go huge when flipped immediately & others need some veg time. I like to drop 8" clones of NL in the tub & they will finish as 2' buds on a stick.

Tyr
09-06-2006, 02:20 AM
FWIW I've never used bushmaster , but one of my pals at another site swears by it.Says it stops vertical growth almost immediately.

fred-g-sanford
09-06-2006, 07:43 PM
These may be helpful

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=32013

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=32017

kevdaddy
09-21-2006, 07:35 AM
I have thought about trying soil sog with these:
http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/index.cfm?page=_productdetails&productid=8683
4" x 14" deep will fit 9 to a milk crate. Hope this helps. :)

joe6pack
09-21-2006, 06:07 PM
Thanks guys, but I've decided to go with a bigger cabinet that will allow me grow up to 6 plants in DWC :D

-joe

Green Supreme
09-21-2006, 07:43 PM
Wahoo go big or go home.Peace GS

Green Supreme
09-21-2006, 07:44 PM
J6P that was your 420 post.Too cool.Peace GS

joe6pack
09-23-2006, 06:09 PM
GS - thanks on pointing out my 420 post - I'll have to smoke twice as much on my first day off the wagon to celebrate :D :D

Also I will be going big for me - moving from a 24" wide x 14" deep x 29" high grow space with a single 150HPS and two plants to a 30" wide x 21" deep x 48" high grow space with a single 400watt HPS and six plants !

Agent-Smith
09-23-2006, 07:23 PM
Everybody starts somewhere. :teeth:

tj_142
10-01-2006, 02:05 PM
STP had a thread on sog with 4x4 cubes, that were hand watered, tj will look for grow notes on it because it intrigued me