unobtanium appreciation club

[Hashmasta-Kut]

hey vapor u seem to make a lotta Bute-ext. howdyu consume it, anhyow..?

[Green Supreme]

I like to take the can and do a big snort,then follow it up with a resin chaser.LOL

[Hashmasta-Kut]

dont worry kut...
we have learned to keep things well spread out, so no real damage is done.{plan for 1/3 of them being hit by popo..}
RooR, althought tug left his unobtanium here till our next meeting, it is fun..


i always found smoking it to be a waste almost, compared to the vapor. it seems about 60-75 percent as stony and long lasting.

cant believe tug gave you his vape on loan. the TUG logo one right? cuz his other is on loan somewhere else! what a psycho.

[Green Supreme]

Biggup HMK and the Glass Goddess.Nice product.Kudos for ingenuity.Peace GS

[Tug]

i always found smoking it to be a waste almost, compared to the vapor. it seems about 60-75 percent as stony and long lasting.

cant believe tug gave you his vape on loan. the TUG logo one right? cuz his other is on loan somewhere else! what a psycho.

Ya, the TUG logo one. I'm not smoking now anyway, and these guys are great HMK, you'd really like them. A relaxing place, great company, and I was going home without the box I brought it in, so lending it seemed convenient, appropriate even.

peace - Tug

[vapor]

I woudnt consider the unobtainium a vape, it cools down and doesnt hold a constant temp...
Although i do believe it is a superior oil pipe!! peace nice work!

[Hashmasta-Kut]

dont consider it one, but this is the data i go by: only one tiny toke of smoke will totally yellow a bowl of water, yet one can vaporize oil all week thru one of these units and the water doesnt change color one iota. so i say its 90 percent plus vapor. has to be.

[Hashmasta-Kut]

hahahaha you call yourself vapor, and you cant tell when you are vaporizing!

[vapor]

what temp are you vaping @@

[vapor]

honestly, i dont like vaporizing too much..
joints are cool, bongs i really didnt like till i was shown a Roor with concentrates...
i like your oil pipe though peace

[vapor]

Vapor, reminds me of being a young lad herring fishing in the fog and wind.. peace

[Hashmasta-Kut]

well its vapor man, i mean i am not positive. but the yellowing water feature of smoke is pretty convincing. before i developed that oil vape design, i used to smoke it on weed, then ash. you dont get as stoned. seems also, another indication of the vaporosity of it. a gram smoked doesnt go as far as a gram thru an oil vape. for me anyhow. so i never smoke it anymore, but if my torch dies, i am fucked! :D (got a spare actually ;) ).

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Vapor, reminds me of being a young lad herring fishing in the fog and wind.. peace


fuck.... i can almost imagine... but . nope. ya lost me .

[c-ray]

the water in the unobtanium hardly smells at all, even after many sessions, that I can confirm

[Hashmasta-Kut]

and when it does smell, it more like the smell of the oil rather than burnt oil it seems.

[Bram]

it leaves a pleasant hashy aroma in the bong :)

[vapor]

well we will need a heat gun to test this baby....

[Hashmasta-Kut]

why, how, what?

[vapor]

All i am saying is it is cooling rapidly..
so i would like to hit it with a heat gun and see were the hit meets temp. peace

[vapor]

maybe we could use crays??

[Hashmasta-Kut]

heatgun? he doesnt have an oil-vape i dont think...

[vapor]

to measure the temp of the titainium,when the hit is laid on it..
380-390

[Tug]

I think you'll find that titanium cools rapidly (500 to 200 degrees in almost an instant, flashing by the vapor producing temperature).
Since we are heating the pad to red hot and applying the hoot after the redness disappears, the hoot is on there before the temp cools to below vapor producing temps, and as such the substance (BHO/Budder/honey oil) will ignite in a poof (combust), and produce vapor as well.
I would say that there is more combustion than vapor, but this needs to be tested before being stated as factual.
I would suggest a temperature sensing gun (cheap, and readily available) to read the temp of the pad.

As to the value of using the water contamination as testimonial of what the smoke/vapor content is, wouldn't vapor color water as well as smoke, just to a lesser degree?
It's pure resin we are igniting/vaping, not contaminant-filled plant material, smoking BHO through a bong (combustion) colors the water very little too, and I think the unobtanium water coloration is being underestimated, mine gets plenty colored.
We need to do both side by side, same weed, same # of hoots (same size), and compare the water of both to see how much difference there is, that would be objective testing.
As it stands, we've got a bunch of stoners saying this and that, and none of the testing being done in laboratory conditions.

peace - Tug

[Marvin Martian]

Vapor:

I have an infrared "touchless thermometer." If you cannot locate one to borrow locally, give me a shout.

MM

[vapor]

Have you ever tasted the pipe water kut?

[Green Supreme]

I know another guy who is a huge proponent of vaporizers.Have seen him drink water from a Vriptech bong.Tried it myself,tastes like essence of whatever you are smokin.
Really I wonder how the Unobtainium water would taste.Peace GS

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Have you ever tasted the pipe water kut?

i havent, but i am quite sure it smells like it tastes and looks: fairly benign.

and at worst, you will probably get recondensded vapor bits from the water chamber stuck to your teeth and stuff, is why you might not wanna do it.. :D

[Hashmasta-Kut]

As to the value of using the water contamination as testimonial of what the smoke/vapor content is, wouldn't vapor color water as well as smoke, just to a lesser degree?
It's pure resin we are igniting/vaping, not contaminant-filled plant material, smoking BHO through a bong (combustion) colors the water very little too, and I think the unobtanium water coloration is being underestimated, mine gets plenty colored.


peace - Tug

i dunno man, i never seen any color. dump it into a clean glass and let me know. mine is always clean, with floaties of oil. but that oil isnt tarry like smoke resin. its clean.

pretty sure vapor doesnt color water. maybe you are doing it a bit hot to get color. but i have done it pretty hot, and the water never gets the color or smell it seems. i will observe for color changes more closely in view of this differing viewpoint.

[Hashmasta-Kut]

It's pure resin we are igniting/vaping, not contaminant-filled plant material, smoking BHO through a bong (combustion) colors the water very little too, and I think the unobtanium water coloration is being underestimated, mine gets plenty colored.
peace - Tug


one toke of oil thru a bong yellows the water for sure, as long as you dont have a huge water chamber. something akin to the oil vape water chamber on the unit i help make is a roor tube bottom chamber. one toke of oil on ash produces a distinct yellowing. however even several hoots thru an oil pipe produces no distinct coloring.

having said that. i am gonna go test it now to make sure i aint full of shit.. :D

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i just checked my oil vapor pipe. has almost an oz of water. maybe 2/3 to 3/4's, i have run over half a dozen tokes thru it, and it was crystal clear in the shot glass i dumped it into to check clarity. i will vape all day and check again.

[Tug]

I'm gonna pay more attention too, and report the results, as I don't wanna disparage your work, it may turn out to be almost pure vapor.
C-Ray agrees on the water, and he seems to pay close attention to details......

peace - Tug

[vapor]

Kut whats the deal with the rubber fitting is it hard to blow the glass down stem to the bowl..

[The Cannarchist]

Ever tried vodka in that?

[Green Supreme]

Water definately tastes nastier than the Vrip water.Certainly makes me go Hmmm.Gotta admit its stil not too bad though.Peace GS

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Kut whats the deal with the rubber fitting is it hard to blow the glass down stem to the bowl..


need to get more joints. smaller ones than regular. 14 mm is too big.

[vapor]

when is that going to be and ideas

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Water definately tastes nastier than the Vrip water.Certainly makes me go Hmmm.Gotta admit its stil not too bad though.Peace GS

its of course going to depend on the taste of the oil you use thru it, and how hot you apply your oil hit. if you wait a bit its more purely vapor. nicer on the throat too, the cooler hits. more water filtration is detrimental tho. less high with more water filtration, way way more with vapor, than with smoke.

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Water definately tastes nastier than the Vrip water.Certainly makes me go Hmmm.Gotta admit its stil not too bad though.Peace GS

well this is how it is for me. i vape a lot thru my pipe, and i dont change the water all week usually, and it doesnt seem to change much.

however, when i smoke my roor perc, i change the water EVERY bowl. i cant stand a toke thru dirty water. tastes like bong.. gross.

[Green Supreme]

Without further intensive testing I will say this now.Whether a pipe or vaporizer the Unobtainium is an effective and efficient way to consume oil or bho.I feel sorry for the builders as now every wannabe in the business will be out to copy it.Some loser will make a shabbier version and have more money to market it.This happens with every new product.No one looks at it and says nice I like it.They say I could make one of those and no credit goes to those who come up with it.So once again I say Biggup to HMK and the Glass Goddess for coming up with something unique.I don't get to see many unique products in the business.Kudos for finding one.Peace GS

[The Cannarchist]

yep,respect is due for sure.

[Tug]

Yes, much respect.
I'm super-happy to have gotten my Unobtaniums, I don't hotknife or charcoal my oil anymore.

peace - Tug

[Lungus]

Since I did my first hoot through the Unobtanium, I knew it was the best way by far to smoke oil and budder. TUG lent me his first vape and it's been sweet, but I really want one of my own, in sunset colours (hint hint), so I'd feel comfortable taking it out of the house to friend's places and whatever. I can smoke a lot more through the vaper than I can off of the charcoals for burning sheesha or on an ash in a pipe.

[The Cannarchist]

How about a step-by-step photo shoot of how it works?

I'm sure folk would like to see it in action

[spacegrass]

I had my ass handed to me by the unobtainium (that was a mean toke) :point: in my defence I'm not much of an oil smoker...I prefer hash. just about ready for a rematch though

sg

[vapor]

i wonder how it would work for dmt....

[Lungus]

Here ya go. First pic is the vape with the titanium plate in the vape position. The second is the the plate being heated by the torch and the third is me taking a big hoot of BHO last week.

[Tug]

Geezus Lungus, you're as ugly as a troll...... :rofl:

i wonder how it would work for dmt....

Why don't you try it, then we'll both know?

I'd figure if the substance (DMT) will combust/vaporize as oil will, it'll work,
if it takes longer to burn (as weed/hash does), it prob won't as Ti cools quickly.

peace - Tug

[Lungus]

Here's a rare picture of TUG in a moment of levity.
http://www.lancingmanor.co.uk/lurch.jpg

[c-ray]

i wonder how it would work for dmt....

probably work great, though you might want someone to spot the pipe for you

[Tug]

i wonder how it would work for dmt....

probably work great, though you might want someone to spot the pipe for you

Uh, hey buddy.... you uh...... need a spot with that?

peace - Tug

[Tug]

Ever tried vodka in that?

I don't know if the fumes from 40% will ignite, but I'm picturing a Richard Pryor moment, carefull.....

peace - Tug

[Tug]

i wonder how it would work for dmt....

Wowsa...... I would say GREAT!!!!
I was using my bong previously, but the Unobtanium makes it easier to take in more than .050 in a hoot (.050 looks like a giant budder hoot), I kept thinking of Maynard in that Tool song....HOLY F*CKING SHIT.....

peace - Tug