Thai strains

[joe6pack]

I bought an ounce of some stuff back in '92 - very expensive at the time for imported weed at $250. It was called Thai Spice and it was really great. Very few seeds, really sticky buds, with a distinct applesauce smell to the buds when broken up and an uplifting spicey sativa high. Wish I had kept some seeds.

anyways - just wondering if people are aware of any thai on the seed market now that has this sort of flavor?

Also interested to hear what other thai buds people may have smoked in the day. I never had chocolate thai - was it really chocolate in smell or where does the name come from?

-joe

[Bram]

you might like the Island Thai I have. I havent smoked any phenos in it with an applesauce like flavour, but I have found one pheno that smokes identical to true Love Potion, and another pheno is like a mix of true Love Potion and Vision Thai. The main flavour theme of the Island thai is woody, piney, lemoney. Depending on the pheno the dominant flavour is either woody, piney, or lemoney with the other two flavours making up the rest of the palate. Its more of an intoxicating sativa high that creeps up on. You smoke a joint and go wow, I am nicely stoned. 15 minutes later you are going holy fuck I'm baked.

[thai die]

havent tried any commercially availible thai, did do a few lines at the beginnin of the year, a pvt lemon thai that was lemon in smoke and aroma. BillyGoats thai, had fruity pebbles aromas, and cherry flavors.

GoldKing also has a thai79 offerin, which was from seed he had found in thai stick, and been keepin the line goin. havent busted those yet.

i think the best thai lines are held by growers, not much at seed banks. so many different thai these days, juicy fruit, choco, lemon, cherry, and so on.

CBF

[c-ray]

there's folks finding old stashes every day, that's the beauty of it, much more to come I believe

[goldking]

Thai-die, how's it going? 6 weeks ago i planted the last 21 original 27 yr old seeds i kept from the bundle of thai sticks i received from Hawaii in 1979

after 2wks one actually sprouted and is now the prettiest ,stocky lil thai i,ve ever seen, its healthy as anything else around..and in all honesty it has to be the purest old school thai around with no inbreeding or cross breeding in 27 years.

tell CBF i,ll keep some cuts for him when it matures if its a girl, if its a male the fresh infusion of genetics will be used to pollenate some females from the IBL i've kept all these years.. I,m praying that nothing bad happens to this gem..

stay safe everyone GK

[goldking]

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[Agent-Smith]

man I hope you share the shit outta that one ,I would! Send to as many people as possible for those "just in case" scenarios. :teeth:

[bopper]

Hi GK,

Good luck with that little beauty. :smilesmok:

Best,

bopper

[goldking]

Agent + Bopper, thanks for the interest, and please think kind thoughts for this gem, it's doing great, its age or whatever caused it to start slow which resulted in a very stocky short node heavy branched lil darling and only 8" tall today and 8" wide too


the leaf is not pencil thin at this stage, but fairly thin and will slim out as she grows like the IB T79s i have...I,ve been praying for a male cause they have been plenty scarce in my Thai79 bean bag but by the looks of this one,i,m kinda swinging toward wanting a Sweet Clone mum..

they have been yummy since 79 and no reason this one won't be either :-)

stay safe GK

[Buckwheat]

Goldking
What is the Goldking Thai that was sold on a Cbay?
I was gifted some recently. Got any pics of it?
Thx.

[YummyBud420]

how high can you get off thai?

[Agent-Smith]

Please start a grow thread for that one as I would like to follow it's journey whether you have a camera or not. :drool:

[YummyBud420]

thank you

[Lrus007]

im here to pop your bubble
the thai that was around
in the 1970's is

gone..

those of us that had some
were lucky

some where it has been lost
i had a real 1 in the 70's- 80's
till it was stolen, taste/ high
was why i learned to clone
was great stuff..

since then i have tryed
many, many, crosses ect.
not 1 has the old time taste/high
so it's gone..

[spaceman]

hey 007 can you describe the taste from the reak old stuff thanks peace

[Buckwheat]

since then i have tryed
many, many, crosses ect.
not 1 has the old time taste/high
so it's gone..
I grew many Thai plants from beans out of Thai sticks of the 70's....I was never able to duplicate what I bought but it was still good.

And it's not gone it's still alive and well in Thailand, someone just needs to go get it, just remember it carrys the death penalty nowdays. That's why you don't see it here anymore.

[spaceman]

was it opium washed

[Buckwheat]

can you describe the taste from the reak old stuff
was it opium washed
It's been a long long time but from memory the thing I remember about it most was that it was always a very thick dense smoke. Coffee/spice/earthy taste.
4 bongs usually got you way higher than you wanted to get. It's one of the few strains that has made me puke and think I was going to die from over doing it which didn't take much...you felt the high within mintues but it took a good 45 - 60 mintues to feel the full effects which is why it was so easy to over do.

The opium and kief soaked Thai sticks were mostly made for tourists. The opium was very sick sweet smelling there is no mistaking that smell once you know what opium smells like. The kief soaked ones smelled and tasted more like hash...These were made in earth/ground ovens the natives use there.

I had a friend who was in the military and he was sending it back to the US in body bags and then onto to his wife. She was getting about 20 lbs a month of sticks and loose Thai and I got rid of all of it for her...I smoked a joint or two of it.
:)

[c-ray]

the frequency of good thai genes has diminished greatly but they still exist, I've seen a few good ones come out of thailand in the past few years, and there is also the hidden seed stashes from the 70's and 80's that are about to be found, when the timing is right

[spaceman]

so when are you breaking out the stash cray

[Agent-Smith]

no shit, I think the time is right "now". I know I'm too young to have ever tried it, I mean shit, I didn't even smoke my first joint until `94 but from what I've heard about it, makes me want to try it BAD! :)

[Lrus007]

hey 007 can you describe the taste from the reak old stuff thanks peace

that is very hard for me to do.. long ago lol
but i will try..
very spicey like clove and frankincence and
other spices *my best guess,
if you ever tasted it.. nothing else like it..
strong smell breaking it up and strong taste
expanded in lungs and had a creeper high
i know this is not much but best i could remember..

I grew many Thai plants from beans out of Thai sticks of the 70's....I was never able to duplicate what I bought but it was still good. *buckwheat

i started every thai seed i got and only a few had *the taste and high
they did better under a mh then a hps lol *now i know why

was it opium washed

ya some were and $5 more per stick

back then i was known for wanting thai
lol loved the stuff.. allway's asked at party's ect.
from a stick to a kilo i was game.. ya carryed
lot's of cash back then just in case something
good came around would be ready to travel lol
fun times; } anyway
thai was gold and brown, stick and stickless
some but not all.. had a opium crust on them
you could tell by licking it, sweet taste and look was darker
seen thai stick's in kilo form pressed tight and stickless
pressed tight .also the stickless came later like 80's
some of it was cali grown thai but had the taste.
then some started selling mexican on a stick and
no one wanted that shit so it went away

so i still say it's gone
least the thai i remember is

[c-ray]

some ol random hippies have good ol thai seeds, but just don't know it yet, that's my story and I'm sticking to it
maybe in the future one of them will read this thread and pm me asking where to send the seeds...it could happen...got to think positive

[d-lite]

2002 koh-pan-gan thai , hermied in week 6 so i harvested , a bit spicy and very catpiss smell like , the high was schwaggy at least, very commercial stuff, much yield and no potency, yielded a bit more than 3 oz

i was told the good days of weed are gone, if you want proper stuff you will need to get charras (from india imported) .... well here we are, in thailand smoking indian hash .. wtf ... lol

[plantbuilder]

thai was gold and brown, stick and stickless
some but not all.. had a opium crust on them
you could tell by licking it, sweet taste and look was darker

pretty sure that's how diesel made tops too lol
peace
pb
i remember the dark brown sticks, my uncle's friend puked after i gave them a joint in grade 11 and i got a talk about that kind of stuff being to stong for kids lol
haven't seen it since '93

[The Cannarchist]

Bottle Beach , Koh phangan 1988-1994

It was all shipped in by fishing boat from Cambodia,very bland but cheap enough to roll gaggers and get a small buzz on....

Best stuff was grown on the hill behind the beach by Mr Matte,an 80 yr old thai guy with no teeth.....He used to wake me at first light with half an Oz being chopped up on a coconut disc.....crying "Bong,bong,bong" as my alarm call.we would then proceed to smoke the lot in a bamboo bong and drink coffee that was so strong it melted the teaspoon! I'd be so high that it felt as though I was walking around on a 6 inch cushion of air all day......

The good ol' dazzzzze

[Buckwheat]

i was told the good days of weed are gone, if you want proper stuff you will need to get charras (from india imported) .... well here we are, in thailand smoking indian hash .. wtf ... lol

I never been there but I've been told by a few that have that most of the weed you buy off the street there is swag and you really have to know someone to find quality smoke but it's there.

I find it hard to believe that the Thai we know from the 70's is gone. Local farmers there have been growing it for generations.

I'm with C-ray also there are people out there that still have beans from the late 70's and early 80's. Last year I ran into an old buddy(long ass story) but he had a Thai stick from high school still...it wasn't very good anymore but it had a few seeds in it but they didn't germ.

[Bram]

Lrus, the Islnd thai has some frankincense tones to her flavour/smell. Some phenos anyways.

[ndnguy]

It's been a long long time but from memory the thing I remember about it most was that it was always a very thick dense smoke. Coffee/spice/earthy taste.
4 bongs usually got you way higher than you wanted to get. It's one of the few strains that has made me puke and think I was going to die from over doing it which didn't take much...you felt the high within mintues but it took a good 45 - 60 mintues to feel the full effects which is why it was so easy to over do.

:)So true, spun out on this bud way more than I care to admit. The keif and laced stuff I really really tried to stay away from because the real bud itself rocked your world like no other.:drool: :shocked: :high:

[marigyp]

Having been there in the early 70's, my favorite was the Thai Highland Red/Brown non-opiated or kiefed. Two pin joints and you were flat ass wasted for a few hours with plenty of visuals. Two pin joints sound like a lot? Remember we smoked a lot of bud back then of very high quality. I still have a couple of pictures of my mamasan with a couple of pounds of Thai Red/Brown in front of her on the floor getting ready to roll them and pack them into packs of Salem cigarettes.

Di-lite if you harvested them at six weeks you really cheated yourself and you have no idea of the potency as you harvest it about three months prematurely. All of the great Thai weed I ever experienced had at least a six month bloom time and they all hermied. That is what made the potency so freakin high was that long flower time in the highlands.

[d-lite]

sure, the potency wasnt fully developed

but what i learned from other sativas, if it is so schwaggy at 6 weeks it wont get much better

i like thai`s very much, once i growen a good thai , in the 90`s from the flying dutchmen in a greenhouse, it got winter and the first pistils showed up i couldnt let her stay longer weather didnt let it ... so i harvested only the leafs ... ok leafs are not so great to smoke , so i made butter and made some cookies ....

to cut it short, the cookies from the thai (only leafs) were in fact much more potent than a super skunk growen next to her (i used the fully developed clippings from the super skunk to make cookies too) ...

i regret it today, that i didnt rolled some leafs to try smoking the thai


i became a partybreaker, the thai cookie was intend for some friends of mine , who had bday .. so i brought in the cake .... after 1 hour, everyone got paranoid and left the party , lmao .... still searching for that monster or better waiting, eddie will release a pure thai soon :)

[goldking]

Well folks, my Thai from the original 1979 seed is still going strong, she's healthy as all get go and has shown a lil .000012" long white hair (she's a girl)

there are a few abnormalitys in the first 4 nodes probably from the extreme age of the kern, the sun leaf has 2 extras leafs growing from the top of them and some nodes have pairs tooth pick sized branches growing from them, but its only on the lower plant,the main branches are about as long as the main stem(a clone factory)

contrary to popular belief there is at least one thai from the 70s still alive hehe

I will post pics when i can borrow someones child to do it for me. later and stay safe GK

[Bram]

I will post pics when i can borrow someones child to do it for me.

watch out man, micheal jackson got his ass sued big time last time he did that ;)

[goldking]

Bram, haha i,m not a Michael Jackson fan,i was refering to some big kid with puter skills, like 15-16yrs old

Cripple, the C99 x sounds good, where are you going to look for the thai anyway?? i,d be interested cause i only have thai79

stay safe everyone GK

[goldking]

sorry false alarm.

[Bram]

only americans going to thailand listen to micheal.

[freeheeler]

What I remember from my limited experience in the mid 80's with the thaisticks are three things:
1. The tunneling of vision. Where your peripheral vision becomes more than distorted, almost opaque.
2. Along with this, the 'ear numbing' quality. Where the sides of your face, most notably in the general area of the ears, goes numb. These two effects combined to provide a similar effect to that of a lactic acid 'overdose'. Those who exercise aerobically (not AEROBICS mind you, but getting your cardio beyond your aerobic threshold into the anaerobic zone) know what I'm talking about. Short of watering in the mouth and puking, but still the same effect. I guess that's why I was so hooked on competive swimming!
3. The 'your life played out as a movie' effect. Where your vision was distorted into a series of frames that skipped. Remember the days in highschool when you'd show up for class and see the projector set up and shades drawn? And your excitement for not having to pay too close attention only escalated when the ill-equipped teacher couldn't keep the movie playing but it skipped and you sat there for 15 minutes watching her debug the mechanics? That same effect was present with the thais I remember.

I puked from weed a lot back then. Never happens any more. Not that that's a BAD thing, but man I miss that buzz. Maybe someday again....
freeheeler

[goldking]

Free, your discription of the thai stick effects,makes me think your sticks might have been triple dipped in Opium sauce, hehehe

i remember the sticks from the 79s+early 80s but there was no tunnel vision or pukeing, just lots of folks sitting around like mannequins with big smiles on their faces and empty wallets (sticks were not cheap this far north, not even by the rare 100 pc bundle)

at least it sounds like you really enjoyed them and still have fond memories.

stay safe GK

[joe6pack]

hey joe , here`s a article from dj short man, there some pics and description of the chocolate thai and differences of . I have the chocolate thai crossed to some c99 that Im gonna f2 and then grow out and do a search for the thai.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4280.html

great article thanks for posting it. keep us updated on the chocolate x c99.

[freeheeler]

GK,
Really? Opium? Only had opium (black tar - GRAPES!) a handful of times and it's never made me feel nearly that speedy. Nor did it ever make me puke.

Truly fond memories though. Will find that again someday.
freeheeler

[burnie]

freewheeler , I remember those effects fondly . Only other time I felt that way was doing lines of "T" in the early-mid 70s . The auditory numbing and tunnel vision made for some interesting cycle rides back then ! Unbelievably , the walkin` on air effect also gotcha` on the bike.......like you and the bike weren`t connected , and the bike and road weren`t connected ! Thanks for the memories guys ! peace...burnie

[ViRedd]

freewheeler , I remember those effects fondly . Only other time I felt that way was doing lines of "T" in the early-mid 70s . The auditory numbing and tunnel vision made for some interesting cycle rides back then ! Unbelievably , the walkin` on air effect also gotcha` on the bike.......like you and the bike weren`t connected , and the bike and road weren`t connected ! Thanks for the memories guys ! peace...burnie

Hahaha ... I remember cycling back in the 70s with my friend Tom. We would smoke some Thai Stick and go for a ride. Peddling the bike felt just like squishing down on giant marshmallos. Also remember the tunnel vision thing too. :)

Vi

[burnie]

Vi , almost always had trouble riding in a straight line . If I did master the manuever , I`d start tippin` sideways like the guy on the trike on "Laugh In" !!! Remember one night still clear as yesterday.....Was on the motorcycle with a GF that was as messed up as I was ! We were driving on a little 2 lane road following a small river upstream . Ran into a few miles of fog that was only neck high....but thick as all get out ! It hadta` freak people out to see only a pair of heads (pun intended ! ) cuttin` through the fog and coming at them at 60 mph or so !!! I`m sure the Honda was invisible to them . Those were the days ! peace...burnie

[goldking]

Howdy folks, it,s been a while, the plant from the one 1979 original seed that germed and grew was doing great for about 4wks in a rubbermaid shoebox wick system she started in, then i transfered her to a 3 gal+ pot with organics(bird shit,guano etc)..

manOman that crap near fried her to death, she dryed up and turned brown and only her growth tips stayed alive..after 6 heavy flushs(you can't rinse out the damn organics) and putting her under the bright lites in the bud room by day and back in the veg room by night,she recouped and is doing fine again, 4'+tall, not much to look at yet,but a lot of new growth and green/healthy..so the Pure Unadultrated original seed Thai Stick Strain from 1979 is still alive :-)...so are some of her pre - near death experience clones i took before repotting her.

thats all GK.. I,ll be back in another 2 mths.. Organics Suck LMAO IMO

[CBF]

almost cooked that girl, lol. hey GK, how ya been, lookin forward to how this last thai girl does for ya.

have a run of haze veggin up, and soon as i get um to flower, will crank up some of the thai79, definitly lookin forward to it.

new batch of the SC is done, some SCreme BX1, and did a few outcrosses with the SC as well.

OPT X SC
OlBlue X SC

some more SourHaze F1s as well(just a small batch) 18 month old frozen haze pollen worked like a champ.

take care bro
CBF

[danimal]

hey CBF that Ol Blue x SC sounds dank...berry coolie anyone?

[caddis]

18 month old frozen haze pollen

Hey CBF, Good seeing you around, again, still, oh whatever... What was the studs pedigree if you don't mind my asking?

Take care, caddis

[Green Supreme]

Thai Lights from Dr.Atomic
7005

7006

7007

[Hash Assasin]

Green Supreme (http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/member.php?u=236), how was the Thai LIghts to grow and smoke? The breeders description sold me.

Peace

[Lrus007]

what does it taste like ?

[spaceman]

The thai lights #3 pheno i sampled much of, was the most thai, i found, the high was very up clear energizing and happy just made ya feel really good.the smell of this pheno i found when broken up close it was floral sweetness, and from about a foot away or more there was this almost meatyness with a touch of smoke,great beans lots of variation but some keepers for sure!

[ViRedd]

Bumped for an update from goldking ...

[Lundin]

Anyone heard about Golden Triangle Thai?

[Green Supreme]

Just a name to me. Always something I heard of ,but could never have. Something I'd put on my list of wants though. Peace GS

[c-ray]

I thought the golden triangle referred to laos, cambodia and thailand...maybe it is thai collected near the borders

[indicastrain]

I have had a lot of different thai-stick because of coffeshops there is a lot of variations in color but my preffered is the light green very very sweet but STRONG ...I'm not fan about the spicy or black sorts of thai...Thai lights looks good but I'm not sure about the taste,is it a good yielder?.Perhaps there is some other breeders with good genetics?

[Green Supreme]

Thai Lights can have nice yields. Very chunky nugs for a mostly Thai. Peace GS

[spaceman]

some taste like northern lights and some taste like candy......!

[monkey5]

goldking, any up-date on the thai/lady? how is she ? smoke report please...up-date at least... always LOVE some thai weed....thank you !!! monkey5

[Lrus007]

well goldking left us hanging. he did send me a thai x afgan
i grew out was a sativa long bud cycle. finished bud was not
very good reminded me of brick weed. anyway that was few
years ago. im still looking for the old time thai. i got some seed
highland and lowland thai 10 seeds of each from thailand. none
of them germed. been a while since i have asked. any one got
any old time thai ?? if so let me know thanks

[spaceman]

i dont know about old school.,., but docs thai is fucking good., and not many are ,.,mostly they are like you said reminds you of bricks.,.,i tried a bunch from older dudes and they were not that great but i love the thais cause they have rippen humble highs great for people looking for a kind up.,.,docs thai gets the top notch.,., if your into clear ups his Haze/cambodian is top shelf/./.

[Lrus007]

quick check and sold out
sad short story lol
thank ya tho

[Nirrity]

if your into clear ups his Haze/cambodian...

Cambodian is total wreckage and no way 'clear', trippy introvert psychedelic stuff that can incapasitate you on the sofa like any other true psychedelic, it's not 'normal' pot...

[Green Supreme]

Guess your Cambo was different. Doc Atomics Cambodian is very up heady. Peace GS

[spaceman]

Cambodian is total wreckage and no way 'clear', trippy introvert psychedelic stuff that can incapasitate you on the sofa like any other true psychedelic, it's not 'normal' pot...

maybe a potency issue.,.,. very rare for me to be incapacitated or anxious{used to get anxiety when i was on fentanyl evil shit} by any pot/./. I am on high amount of opiates aswell.,., usually some really good pot like sweet skunk super silver haze can get me rippen high.,.,so all i know is i smoke many doobies everyday.,., and the doc atomic cambodian haze is very up and clear how often do you smoke eh?

[Nirrity]

recent cambodian experience from icmag.com
yes a bit off topic...sorry.
cambodian came from a vietnam veteran friend who brought em back.he grew seedplants every year,selecting the earliest/best.then i x'd it 2 the warp,then back 2 the cambodian.now inbredline,very dank
same type of high as u described,edgy,trippy ride.Haze tends 2 b a little happier,but racy nonetheless.the best happy highs 4 me come from old school Hawaiian sativas
the high is very up & racy.can induce paranoia,confusion,panic attacks,etc.:yoinks:
before that I read almost the same about cambodian on old reef forum, guy told about total loss of time and space coordination...
my own experience with thai/haze x cambodian...
and a lot of reports about some VB phenos... I contact about that with dubi and he said the VB pheno he likes and uses in orient express is quite different to other VB phenos which are trippy/edgy psychedelic introvert high...
the only Cambodian smoke report which is not fall into trippy/psychedelic kind of things is Dutch Flowers Cambodian Flyer.
Atomic's cambodian sounds very interesting, never heard Dr. Atomics posess any cambodian genes, is it his heirloom strain?

oh and I didn't said it's not 'heady' the incapacitance goes from the depths the high can depersonalize you easily and is speedy/racy/electric which also can lead to anxiety and panick attacks easily.. breath and heart troubles.. it's quite hard to function properly.. this was the only time when I was so freaked out i couldn't cross the road as I was totally lost to social behavior and perception... it was really insane..

[Green Supreme]

He went to the point of origin 3 or 4 years back bringing 3000 beans with him. I got to puff his pure Cambodian after he was done the breeding. Funny how someone writes something and folks take it as gospel, teehee funny enough thats how the gospel came to be. Hahahah man I am hilarious. Peace GS

ps. mumble mumble lightweight mumble mumble

[Nirrity]

yes I'm not stoned all the time.. the _more_ you smoke the _less_ your sensitivity imho so no +3 on shulgin's scale for heavy tokers

[Nirrity]

some of the finset examples of what true psychedelic sativas are, Tom Hill on Haze: ...A plant capable of sneaking up on you & throwing your head to & fro in a 3 meter circle like a dmt trip. Helpless & bewildered, you'll head off to the bathroom mirror to make sure that you are still yourself- this is the nature of a good haze...
can't vote for haze but thai/haze x cambodian are pretty much the same feeling...

[Green Supreme]

Think Tom might have been lightweightish too at the time. I mean really dmt trip, c'mon. I gots to get somma what yous are smoking. Peace GS

[spaceman]

true that^ there is no weed that is anywhere on the same level as DMT.,.,i understand how they could be seen as cousins or a little sister etc.,.,DMT is the grandpa.,.,tabaco, and cannabis the sisters.,,. there is just no way cannabis can be compared to dmt, i can see people getting paranoid from weed.,.,if they hollioed dmt they would probably crack.,.,.

[Nirrity]

cmon guys don't you understand this is just a metaphor??
lightweight or not it's not the case because all what i trying to say (and Tom) is that there are some weed that affect you like a true psychedelic - no mimicry here for LSD or DMT or whatever - just a very sharp psychedelic experience of its own way, very deep, very trippy, very intense, very profound... that's it.. it's quite obvious if you use _the same dosage_ of different hybrids and the one makes you happy extrovert energetic while another makes alienated 'am I go insane' kind of trip... and it's not only me or dosage.. i have faced a lot of peoples report on TFD Haze, Zamal, VB etc...