View Full Version : Oregon 90 x Burmese Pure grow and chat...
08-24-2006, 04:14 PM
Well I'm going to drop a few of these beans on Monday and thought I'd start a thread to document the results.
So a little about the parents...
Oregon 90 - is a indica dominant plant that makes some skunky, stanky, crystal covered rock hard buds. The story goes that this strain has been inbred for 20+ years in the Eugune, OR area where it is called by another name. Big leaves that tend to be kinda thick and a little leathery. Prefers medium nutrient levels. Buds finish nearly white with crystals and a few red hairs. Some purpling of the buds was seen late in flower - I think cool temps could really turn this one purple with ease. The pheno selected for the mother of this cross displayed the best vigor out of the 4 plants I started of this strain. She finishes around 8 weeks for a nice euphoric up high and 9 weeks for a couchlock high with more stoney feelings. Good for nasua suppression and pain relief. One of the more potenet strains I have grown. A sample grown by another grower was recently tested at 15.4% THC. The kinda bud that makes you put down the bowl and forget what you were doing half way through. Makes nice hash too. Only downside is that she tended to put out a few male flowers around day 35 of flower, resulting in a very few mature seeds in the otherwise sensi bud.
Burmese Pure (reeferman seeds) - I obtained these from HS a bit over a year back. This is what reef's catalogue has to say about the strain A rare sativa, Burmese gives beautiful plants that look like indica hybrids, but smoke like a true sativa, with exotic sweet aromas and an uplifting, anti-anxiety high. We are big fans of Burmese hybrids, as you'll see on the next few pages. I've grown two female phenos of this strain before and both were excellent. The first was an indica like pheno that produced fat nugs with a slight purple tinge in exactly 9 weeks, the smell was strong and the smoke left a distinct greasy feel in your mouth. I also grew a sativa pheno that produced nice spear like nugs with a slightly fruity taste these could go a little past 9 weeks. Both had great highs and are amongst my favorites. For the cross I used a male plant which seemed to lean towards the indica pheno.
so there you go... and here we go :D
edit: Adding a few pictures. I had these posted in budshots forum but I downloaded and deleted from there and am posting these here. First two are cured bud shots of the mom (oregon90) and second two are cured bud shots of a sister of the dad (burmese pure). I'll try to dig up some plant pics later.
08-24-2006, 05:02 PM
sounds interesting, i'll be keeping an eye on this thred. for a while now i've had a hankering for Burmese.
08-24-2006, 05:27 PM
yeah another grow thread! :yay:
08-27-2006, 06:35 PM
Well, well, well! Imajine that! Joe is going to grow some more of those uagually buds. I guess you are going to force me to pop a couple of these for a grow along? Okay, you twisted my arm. I just dropped a couple of the darker seeds into the wet napkin. Let's see who can grow the uagualist bud.
Thanks heaps for sharing the love.:kind:
08-28-2006, 01:01 AM
boy oh boy a competition !
this should be fun :D
08-28-2006, 06:45 AM
You know Joe I just love these kinds of competetion. How are you going to lose? What? Over load your bowl and get lost in the clouds of smoke!:joint3:
08-28-2006, 11:45 PM
hey joe......hope u don't mind me joinin in
got a few 0-90's in flower right now.....3rd week i think maybe a little longer......one looks very interesting b/c this last week it has exploded w/ new pistils.....really startin to pack the resin on. dark green leaves and ultra white flowers:)
no sign of hermi yet
here are a couple of quick pics i got (they don't do them justice)
ps thanks for the detailed description it has really helped.....ohhh yea did you have a pheno that was more prone to puttin out nanners? just wondering
08-29-2006, 02:08 AM
hey soil-E-buds - please feel free :thumbsup:- your o90 looks very nice and healthy - I think you'll be real happy in another 5 weeks :kind: - the high is really nice and strong. The buds get really rock hard - it's like they've been compressed - they burn longer as a result - in my little one hitter I get one hit from a sativa pack but I get 2-3 from a pack of the o90.
they probably look alot like this, huh?
here's a thread on my cabinet - you'll see a bunch of oregon90 shots in there
watch the lower buds for nanners - if they come they'll be down there. I could never see them as I grow scrog and it gets pretty thick in the canopy.:farm:
p.s. - dropped 5 or 6 tiger striped beans today - soaking some rw cubes and getting the veg cab ready.
08-29-2006, 08:32 PM
Nice to see some work being done on a good strain ,thanks Joe,I'll be following your efforts.
sounds like an interesting match. I will be interested to see how the Burmese effects the flavour.
08-30-2006, 06:01 AM
Could someone tell me what the smell and flavor are expected to be like? Are we talkin skunk, berry, pine, or old scholl funk.
Soil-E those are some nice lookin plants. They sure look frosty. What is the smell like?
08-31-2006, 04:43 PM
TC and bram - thanks :wave:
hey marigyp - the oregon90 is skunky and funky -the buds can develop some astringent fuel/citrus smells but the overall smell is skunk and funk - very old school smell and taste IMO. The burmese is exotic, floral, and spicy - sorta like jasmine, rose water, and nag champa incense very distinct and pleasant reminds you of a pretty indian girl's perfume :o - the buds can also develop a fuel/citrus smell too after curing. From what I hear burmese tends to dominate the smell in crosses so I'd expect the floral smells to be apparent but with skunky undertones.
So out of the 5 beans I put into a wet paper towel 2 have cracked and shown tap roots so they went into RW cubes last night. Another one was just cracked I expect to see a tap root today - hopefully another will pop too.
08-31-2006, 06:19 PM
you're on your way. :teeth:
09-01-2006, 01:12 AM
I germinated two seeds and now have two just showing their pretty heads. Sorry I could only start two, but the numbers game here is pretty small. Let us just hope one of them is a girl. These will be grown in Black Gold.
Oh goody, goody. Somethin that smells different!
09-01-2006, 04:55 PM
Geez all this entertainment,no dancing girlz?
09-01-2006, 07:12 PM
3 have cracked showing tap roots and been planted in some RW cubes. One of the three is super vigorous and has already sheded it's seed and is showing the first two seed leaves.
May the gods shower you with ladies marigyp!
09-05-2006, 02:47 AM
got two diff. pheno's goin right now.
my fave has the most ultra white, fine hairs really cool lookin, and really good early trich production!!!!
the other pheno looks good also, it is a little chunkier buds
Joe,....your cross otta have some keepers most def......will be fun to hunt 'em down.
09-08-2006, 02:54 PM
those oregon90s are looking great!
Well my germination results so far....
of the 6 I put in paper towel,
2 sprouted right away, these are now on their second set of true leaves and looking healthy under 18 hours of the 150 hps plus some floros.
1 sprouted shortly thereafter but had trouble shedding it's seed shell over the weekend while I was away. As a result it's still smaller and in the veg cab.
1 sprouted while I was away over the weekend and shot out leaves and a big tap, but it was still inside the paper towel - by the time I checked it there was no saving it.
1 other one sprouted a tap and has been put into RW but has yet to push up and pop it's first leaves
1 did not sprout at all
so not the best results, mostly my fault though as I forgot I'd be away over labor day weekend at such a key time in their little lives. well hopefully i'll get at least one female from the three seedlings that have made it so far.
I'll post some pics of them on monday.
09-08-2006, 04:15 PM
Well here we are at one week. These are in Black Gold in six ounce stryofoam cups and have been given nothin but water. They are sitting under T-5 flouros all red color. They look like twins and are on their third node already. As a lot of you know I germinate and start clones under these flouros because of the very tight nodes they develope. They look indica dominant to me right now. Joe which do you think they look more like right now, their mom or their dad?
09-09-2006, 02:50 AM
mari - they look more like dad right now.
09-13-2006, 04:22 AM
Well here we are .... :(
09-13-2006, 06:17 AM
Hey dudes and thanks Joe for the beans. I planted 5/10 and got three seedlings. One is most vigorous, the other two are pretty slow and stunted. So hopefull the one will be interesting and if not I'll do the rest of the beans. It could be the 125 watt compact flouros from supernatural products, I much prefer standard flouro tubes. .
09-13-2006, 08:24 AM
Those are looking very healthy Joe. Mine are on there fifth node and they are not even two weeks old yet. Very vigorous growth for me here. I just love these T5's and the structure they build.
09-15-2006, 01:56 AM
Well here we are .... :(
09-15-2006, 02:45 AM
I still have mine under the T-5 and working on their sixth node at a day shy of being three weeks old. I am going to plant them outside for a fall winter grow, just in case some bananas appear where they don't belong.:banana:
09-24-2006, 06:49 PM
hey hey here we go :wave
09-24-2006, 06:52 PM
looking good joe, get that cabinet done quick, they'll love you for it!! :teeth:
09-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Well here we are .... :(
09-25-2006, 05:09 PM
woo hoo :woohoo: both of the seedlings are showing female and looking real nice and healthy. The stretch ain't soo bad either - the trainwreck which was half as big and started 12/12 5 days later has already out stretched them. the big one is looking super nice and I love the structure, strong trunk, fat leaves, close nodes, and quiet a few nodes showing little female calyx with long (2mm) white pistals.... now the real fun begins :D :D :D gotta get that big cabinet done by mid week as I now have four girls (two of these ob1's and two TW clones) that desperately need bigger buckets plus the other 2 burmese pure seedlings and 2 more ob1 seedlings all on their second set of true leaves in the veg cabinet. :)
09-25-2006, 05:13 PM
If I was near you Joe I'd come help you. I love building stuff. :teeth:
09-25-2006, 05:43 PM
Here is an update on my oregon90 x burmese pure at 33 days under the T-5's. They were transplanted into 6" commercial pots this morning of BlackGold. These babies really have their own funk going on in veg. Good healthy thick trunks for their age and being under the T-5's. Starting today they will be going outside during the day and under a 400 watt Hortilux Blue Eye at night. They will be kept in veg for ninety days due to rotation and plant numbers as I am staying strictly legal here.
The funk they have in veg gives me a lot of hope for the bloom being the dank stank!
Thanks again Joe for sharing the love.:smoke3:
09-26-2006, 05:34 AM
yeah marigyp mine are funking out nicely too - umm umm can't wait to see what the full odor is :kind: keep the pics coming
09-26-2006, 05:39 AM
hey joe thanks...!!!!
09-26-2006, 07:20 AM
those look fatty :kind: nice work joe......very indica lookin....the bermese otta add to the already interesting smell.....can't wait to see some buds
my o-90's are getting close....last couple weeks and they have gotten this deep skunk almost garlic dank funk...reminds me of some kind of seasoning? really interesting smell....did your 0-90 mom have this smell joe?
here are couple pics of the girls after a bit of nute burn.....they were very sensitve compaired to other indica dom. strains i have grown...but they didn't suffer too bad
09-26-2006, 07:21 AM
In the last pic u can see the first nanner i have seen yet.....prolly cause of the overfert stress.....clipped it off and don't see any more right now.
09-26-2006, 03:32 PM
yeah soil-e-buds the o-90 mom I had was really funky - skunky - body odor - something sweet and definetly spicey - I had trouble placing it myself - my sense of smell is ver diminished due to an operation I had to fix a deviated septum. I sent a medical user in need a few samples and he described it as earthy and spicey - the smoke he said had an "impecable" flavor reminenscent of good juicy fruit and left a fruity smell in the air - to me it just smells and tastes like good pot - a little old school flavors - I handed my friend a bud of it and a bud of nl x c99 and he said the nl x c99 was weird smelling but the o90 was just perfect. anyways I know you'll enjoy it - very good for pain management with good legs too.
nice looking plants - how many weeks now - I found much over 60 days wasn't required unless you wanted real couchy stuff.
good work and keep it going :kind:
10-01-2006, 05:28 PM
Well here we are .... :(
10-01-2006, 08:21 PM
those are lookin great.....gonna be an interesting cross fo sure.....that main stem looks thick!!!!
10-01-2006, 08:43 PM
joe, they are looking great!!! please do a smoke report on this one....tell us how she smokes after a cure !!! taste?? burmese pure ,should of made some of those seeds too!!! monkey5
well I had to come by and update with some pics as I did give a bunch of these seeds to some folks here....
so here we go
I got two phenos, one indicaish, one sativaish
the indica is the first few pictures around day 55 of 12/12 - I plan on taking her down around 60-63 days of 12/12. Smell is very strong and a mix of the rotten fruit o90 smell and the spicey exotic sweetness of the burmese pure - frost coverage is good - this is exactly what I was shooting for with this cross.
the last picture is the sativa pheno also around day 55 of 12/12 - I plan on letting this one go to 70 days or so. smell is lighter and more fruity - almost bannana like - doesn't really remind me of mom or dad.
looking dank man. i bet that is going to make some killer bubblehash.
11-03-2006, 08:37 PM
Ya J6P thats some pretty frosty lookin bud. Very dark green. Can you post a whole plant pic of the sativa one please. Lookin forward to starting those once a bit more stability has been reached for me. Good luck GS
11-04-2006, 02:56 AM
there's some banana/tropical fruity smelling plants to be found in burmese, if one grows a few of them
GS - some of the dark green is due to the flash I used in to take these photos - I'll try and post a pic under natural light - also the oregon90 mom was dark green with leathery leaves. Some of it is probably my nutrients too - I just started flushing when these pics were taken. I'll post up a full plant picture of the sativa in a day or so.
c-ray - that's interesting to hear - maybe she's displaying some hidden burmese trait?
11-05-2006, 08:05 PM
Cool J6P thats kinda what I thought but wasn't sure. I'm sure they're gonna be yummy. Good luck. Peace GS
Well here's some shots of the sativa pheno. hard to really see what her structure would have been as I accidently topped her and trained her to the screen and also had to tie back some buds due to light/heat burn. This plant would have been a monster if left unchecked.
Still has a funky light bannanna like smell. Looks no where near finished at 58 days. Buds are still bulking and crystal production is good. I'm really starting to wonder what she'll finish like...
here's the pictures - one with flash, one without.
11-07-2006, 08:47 PM
Man thats some yummy looking sativa Joe. Lots of one leafs. Was it like that throughout the flowering life of the plant?
Keep up the good work.Bananas eh, mmmm.Peace GS
11-08-2006, 01:25 AM
GS - yes this plant did single and three fingered leaves throughout flower - possibly as a reaction to the accidental toping that occurred around week 3.
Here's a few more pictures of the sativa pheno still going strong at 67 days of 12/12 - gotta take her some time next week.
Buds from the indie pheno are almost ready for the jars. Early smoke is good but flavor is not fully developed - needs a few weeks in the jars.
11-16-2006, 04:44 PM
Wow J6P. Looks amazing. Still smelling those bananas? Peace GS
Yeppers - funky bannanna all the way - on my hands when I touch them and on the plant when it is moved.
hmm... well I wanted to come back and post up some more pictures of this cross... looking now I also see I owe a few more pictures of the 12 week pheno and a full smoke report on both of the onese I grew out as well...
but these pictures were grown by someone else... this person got three phenos out of 5 seeds sprouted - two were similar with one producing denser buds and therefore yielding better both going 9 weeks or so and then one that went 12. The 12 week pheno seems to be demarked by a very single column dominant grow style - at first I thought it more indica but then he said it went 12 weeks.
Anyways he really enjoyed the strain and found a keeper of the two 9 week phenos that he's still running.
He said this pheno was fetching top dollar in HI ... which makes me very proud :D
The oregon90 really added the chunkyness to this cross.. These three were grown under a single 150hps with organic soil and pure blend pro nutrients.
so without further words here are his pictures. Hope this gets some folks to sprout the packs I sent them...
edit: phenos from top to bottom of pictures;
red container - 9 week pheno1
white container - 9 week pheno2
red container - 12 week pheno - notice the single column growth on this one - it went 12 weeks and he posted when he chopped but never posted again after that.
some more pictures from the same growers crop...
first two pictures of the 12 week pheno
next three are 9 week pheno1 - I believe this was his keeper
then next three are the shorter one in the white container is 9 week pheno2
then a few more of the 12 week pheno - never heard back on how this was - I'm betting he liked it :D
06-18-2007, 11:25 PM
looks real good joe!!
Hi Vapor and thanks but I can only take credit for giving that grower the seed and reposting his pictures here - he did all the work. Speaking of didn't I actually didn't I send some of these your way for TC?
I can however take credit for the ones I grew... and well here's the rest of the story with that 12 week sativa pheno that I grew - she went 83 days in the end - these pictures are from around 80 days - when the leaves started turning ...
probably the best damn weed I have ever grown, let alone I bred it. Wish I had kept a cut of this pheno. Luckily it seems to be common as the other grower giving these a go did get this one too.
I'm guessing these are the two gross pheno types resulting from this cross with the 12 week sativa being the less dominant one and a range between sativa and indica for the majority 9 week pheno.
The smoke smells dank as dank with some berry flavors. I guess I'd describe it as kinda rotten funky hash with this fruity blue berrish tinges. The smoke is superb and the flavors when smoked are immediatly noted by all as being the bomb having something distinctly old school in the flavor (oregon90) that is hard to place but very welcome in these days of c99s and kush everything
The high hits you right away and sends you up for a good 20-30 minutes before platea - very clear cerebral, happy, and thought provoking.
06-19-2007, 12:04 AM
i will give some to tc next time i see him.,.,thanks eh!
oh hey look there they are yeah definetly give them a try - the oregon90 was very good medicine and she imparted nice bud structure to all the offspring just as TC said it would do. I was going to upload some bud shots of the 12 week pheno and the 9 week pheno but I can't seem to work it right now.
let's see some bud shots...
first a shot of a clone of the indica pheno at 54 days flower showing very oregon90 like bud traits and especially in the shiny leaves.
then 2 dry but shots of this pheno
the rest are of the sativa pheno
a few more bud shots - all of the sativa pheno
06-21-2007, 12:11 AM
Good job Joe,the sat pheno is mouthwatering.How long for the cure?
those pictures were from when she was just dried. (edit: the first bud shot on the jar lid is cured 6 months in that photo - rest were as it was going into jars) The smoke on the sativa was actually pretty sweet after two weeks and probably at it's most pungent. After a couple of months the smell got less pungent and more fruity. Still wicked pungent on the break up. It's funny I keep trying to place the exact smells - and I keep coming back to a memory from childhood of the combination of smells created when someone pukes and the buss driver spreads that kitty litter like stuff on top that smells kinda more like bubble gum and fruit but yet there's still that pukey smell - well that's kinda what I'm getting when I stick a bud up to my noise and squeze it.
now for the smoke.... little bud out of a clean glass bubbler - smooth - hmm - I'm actually picking up some distinct notes of ginger and fruit, maybe raspberries and a little mango - hashy flavors too of course
buzz fast and to the face right away - just got distracted by the tv for a few minutes.... hmm and I didn't finish the bowl either...
so here's some dry bud shots of the indica pheno.
This one lost alot of it's odor when dried - reminds me very much of the oregon90. When I smoke burmese, oregon90, and this one I can see the very clear blend in flavors with a little burmese at first and then something hashy and oregon90 like in the exhale
first three shots were the seed plant and this was as it was going into the jars. last two are from clone and 6 month glass jar cure.
06-21-2007, 05:01 AM
Very nice selection indeed
You've come far since I first saw you around.
It gets addictive......:family:
06-21-2007, 05:56 AM
yeah I agree burmese is a strain that tastes great with minimal cure, must be all those terpenes
thanks c-ray and TC - yes the burmese has always been excellent right off the vine so to speak.
I just recieved a report back on the indica pheno from a medical user - the individual said the smoke was very smooth and hashy in flavor. The high came on over a 30 minute period and lasted for 1.5 hours before the person fell asleep for a restful night (I'm sure the high lasted longer he was just asleep for the rest of it). The individual indicated that the high started in the head behind the eyes (burmese) but then moved into the body relaxing the person's back and relieving the pain by relaxing twisted muscles. As I stated the person went to sleep easily and slept fully through the night.
06-22-2007, 01:56 AM
sounds like good medicine!!
06-24-2007, 07:41 AM
Really nice, j6p. I recall you and I collaborating some trying to piece together the O90 story that TC did such a good job of keeping under wraps. He's a :pimp:
That cross sounds great. I have a single female O90 outdoors this season, the last of my O90 beans, so I was glad to get a girly outta the deal. She's a monster and I'm hoping to dust her with some Kashmiri pollen.
Take it easy joe
06-24-2007, 07:56 PM
Strangely enough I managed to reconnect with the O90 folk a few weeks ago,should have 2006 vintage seeds dropping through the door any day now.....I'm eager to find out what they have improved upon.
A good example of grand circle theory,if you give enough away something better always comes back....
I think a little late planting for the outdoors is in order.:boogie:
Hey TC that's cool to hear that you reconnected with the Oregon90 source. Maybe you can take the Oregon90 x burmese pure and back cross to this latest generation of Oregon90?
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