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Carpet Muncher
08-06-2006, 04:38 AM
these Mexican grows are getting busted like crazy this yr.. and they're always huge!

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0804potbust0804.html

Pot farm could set record for Arizona

Lindsey Collom
The Arizona Republic
Aug. 4, 2006 12:00 AM

TONTO NATIONAL FOREST - Authorities say a woman scattering her mother's ashes in Tonto National Forest stumbled upon what could be the largest marijuana farm ever found in Arizona.

More than 30,000 marijuana plants cover the slopes of a canyon about 20 miles east of Payson. The crop was growing on what investigators said was a 2-year-old operation hidden beneath a canopy of thorny locust trees.

At least four workers nurtured the plants from seedlings to maturity, with some plants growing as tall as 9 feet, authorities said. The workers constructed a sophisticated irrigation system to funnel creek water through half-inch pipes to the garden below, using valves to regulate the flow of water.

"They put a lot of time and effort into these, and I'm sure it just killed them to leave it behind," said Lt. Kirk Bryce of the Department of Public Safety in Flagstaff.

Bryce said nobody has been apprehended in connection with the pot farm.

Arizona authorities have shut down five marijuana gardens on state lands so far this year. In 2005, there were seven major busts that yielded a total of 220,000 pounds of pot with a street value of about $110 million, authorities said.

Rim country has been home to most of the crops. It's rugged, remote, blanketed in forest and teeming with streams, making it "an accommodating host to marijuana trafficking," DPS Sgt. Jack Johnson Jr. said.

Those conditions are similar to other state lands, and the problem is not exclusive to Arizona. Across the nation, growers are utilizing state lands to cultivate marijuana plants, said Robin L. Poague, special agent in charge of the U.S. Forest Service southwest region.

Marijuana is relatively easy to grow. All it needs is soil, water, indirect sunlight and a warm climate.

DPS officials said this week's crop was worth at least $30 million in the Arizona market, perhaps double or triple in central and eastern parts of the country. If the plants had made it to harvest, which was five to seven weeks out, the yield would have been distributed to metropolitan cities nationwide, Bryce said.

The pot farm covered half a mile, its southernmost edge a 30-minute hike from Tonto Creek Fish Hatchery, a tourist attraction. A team of Drug Enforcement Administration agents spent most of Thursday plucking plants from the earth.

A helicopter took the bundles to be burned about four miles south of the field. Authorities could have the field cleared by the end of the weekend.

DPS officials had been watching the field since May 30. Officers attempted to arrest three workers last week but a fog set in, making their escape possible.

The workers were long gone Thursday, but traces of them remained. A shrine of dried flowers and pictures of the Virgin of Guadalupe sat beneath a locust tree close to the crop. The place where they held camp a short climb away was littered with food and trash. There was an abandoned tent and sleeping bags, and several black socks hung from a branch next to a pair of jeans.

Local authorities have arrested two people this year in connection with growing operations. Those men, both undocumented immigrants, were detained last month during a marijuana field raid near Skunk Creek, north of Phoenix. They told authorities they tended to the 8,000 plants as repayment for being smuggled across the border, according to DPS.DPS Director Roger Vanderpool said Mexican drug cartels have been behind the pot farms in recent years and aren't afraid to resort to brute measures.

Forest Service employees have warned hikers to beware of marijuana operations, which are often manned by armed guards.

"They will do whatever it takes to protect their product," Vanderpool said. "Will it get more violent? Yeah. These folks don't know whether you're a citizen hiking, law enforcement or a rival drug dealer trying to take the crop."

Meanwhile, Forest Service officials also worry about the damage to the ecosystem.

Poague said it could take years for the land to recover from damage inflicted by the pot growers.

Agent-Smith
08-06-2006, 04:57 AM
Marijuana is relatively easy to grow. All it needs is soil, water, indirect sunlight and a warm climate.


:rofl: If only it were just that easy! :rofl:

Alaska
09-24-2006, 11:37 PM
Indirect light!?!

Who needs clearins, lets just all plant under the canopy where out plants can THRIVE in INDIRECT LIGHT!!

A

vapor
09-25-2006, 12:55 AM
some plants DO thrive in low light ..pineberry....

d-lite
09-25-2006, 01:09 AM
Meanwhile, Forest Service officials also worry about the damage to the ecosystem.

Poague said it could take years for the land to recover from damage inflicted by the pot growers.

idiots, did they forgot mj plants re-new the ecosystem

outdoordreams
09-25-2006, 10:23 AM
idiots, did they forgot mj plants re-new the ecosystem

Not really, lazy growers are greedy and messy.............Adding promix to natural soils is not healthy..............not to mention plastic pipes laying all over the place............most likely they used chemical fertilizers......

I know a place here in BC that was busted and the cops cut up hoses and broke pumps and left everything behind, no clean up effort what so ever.........quite unsitely for a natural location.....................


"Marijuana is relatively easy to grow. All it needs is soil, water, indirect sunlight and a warm climate.

If only it were just that easy! '"

Commercial weed is that easy to cultivate..........medical grade is a different story..........


What I cant believe is 30million worth of crop and no charges.....................hahahahahhahahah
Spent all their budget busting bc growers........Twisted world.................

d-lite
09-25-2006, 05:46 PM
ok thast a good point, i forgot not all outdoorgrowers go with mother nature

on the other hand, if those plants were in the shades nutes wouldnt do a good job, i mean ferts help only if there is enough solar power to make use of it

like giving ec 2,0 to plant wich is in the shadow, it will burn it most likely instead of thriving the greens ...

well , just some thoughts ... cant say more didnt see the location, unfortunately .... strange anyhow shadows and mj ...

greetz

JackStraw
09-25-2006, 06:29 PM
At least the growers got away.

OneLegUp
09-25-2006, 08:04 PM
what does the little "d" stand for... ?

I've got a strong suggestion...

having some one in my family work for the forestry department can tell you..

they dig up the local flora etc....

they cut significantly into the little water flow there is in certain areas harming life downstream..

they use chemical pesitcides...killing good and bad ..with pesticides leeching into the soil causing other damage...along with leaving the barrels/buckets etc behind..

they eat their food and leave the bags, cans, bottles etc...all over

they generally are well armed(not always but generally)... to protect the the grow...

they in general leave a huge mess that the forestry department will often have to get hazmat teams in because of the pesticides etc to help in cleaning up the sites..

and often to get the crap left behind out... they have to helicopter it out...


All of this comes at the expense of nature and a great deal of money which could be spent in better more productive ways in our national forests etc...

And I'm not happy they got away..because they not only destroy OUR forests... our public lands... they are often dangerous and with having just lost a major grow..the next time they'll protect it better...and do it again in a national/state park...fucking us..

yes it would be better if growing weren't criminal... but until such time... I can't condone nor will I turn my head to the damage these vermin do and the danger they pose to hikers, tourists and government employees such as my family member..........

d-lite
09-25-2006, 08:44 PM
having some one in my family work for the forestry department can tell you..

they dig up the local flora etc....

local flora has forgotten the mj plants , dont forget that .. btw nice you have someone working there ... me is living in a national forrest , i can tell you visitors make much more trash than growers do


they cut significantly into the little water flow there is in certain areas harming life downstream..

well i already wrote i dont know this location and your climate, but i do know mj is a surviver in dry places


they use chemical pesitcides...killing good and bad ..with pesticides leeching into the soil causing other damage...along with leaving the barrels/buckets etc behind..

again, its a choice if you need it or not, mj is nearly resistant on very much pests outdoors, mother nature can control itself, trust me


they eat their food and leave the bags, cans, bottles etc...all over

not more than visitors do


they generally are well armed(not always but generally)... to protect the the grow...

who wouldnt be armed in a nra country ;)



they in general leave a huge mess that the forestry department will often have to get hazmat teams in because of the pesticides etc to help in cleaning up the sites..

already said it



and often to get the crap left behind out... they have to helicopter it out...


arent they paid to keep the forrests clean ?



All of this comes at the expense of nature and a great deal of money which could be spent in better more productive ways in our national forests etc...



yes mother nature forgot the mj plants, and awful pestizides are terrible ... already said it above ...



And I'm not happy they got away..because they not only destroy OUR forests... our public lands... they are often dangerous and with having just lost a major grow..the next time they'll protect it better...and do it again in a national/state park...fucking us..

your poor forrest, maybe you didnt knew mj is cabable of producing much more oxygen than a forrest could ever do



yes it would be better if growing weren't criminal...

agreed


but until such time... I can't condone nor will I turn my head to the damage these vermin do and the danger they pose to hikers, tourists and government employees such as my family member..........

very diabolic, dont you think ... acusing "bad" growers demolishing your / our forrests ?

i mean if you would legalize mj .. it wouldnt be necessary all this crappy propaganda about demolition on mother earth ... weed is a part of it and will ever be .. no matter if legal or not , think about the pesticides you eat daily in your veggies and this so called demolition

peace

suzy cremecheese
09-25-2006, 08:49 PM
You know if they just left the plants their to compost they would of returned most of the nutes they sapped from the soil right back to it but they had to get all hightech and helicopter them out of there.

crew
09-25-2006, 08:50 PM
yep, something on that scale only equals one thing...$$$$$. Anyone with that kind of greed, I just can't see them giving a rats ass about what kind of damage they do. I feel bad about years ago using Miracle Grow out in Mother Nature. That was just a few plants and spots. Can you imagine the poundage of chems that were probably used in that one op. Greed Kills!
peace, crew

suzy cremecheese
09-25-2006, 08:54 PM
local flora has forgotten the mj plants , dont forget that ..

A 30K plant monocrop is hardly natural fauna. When you do 30K plants in a relatively tight space you will most likely need water, pesticides, and fertilizers in order to get the most out of your investment.

While there are bad eggs that visit the NPs and SPs I find most people that appreciate nature do just that and leave it how they found it.

All that being said I'm still glad they got away. Losing all that hard work is punishment enough.

crew
09-25-2006, 09:36 PM
If its true that these folks were working off a debt, I wonder what will happen to them? Sounds like they might have been better off getting put behind bars. Or I guess they could have the same waiting when they got out. Sounds like a crap deal all the way around.