Ways to smoke Hash

[Agent-Smith]

Hoping some people can put their input into this thread. I'm looking for ways to smoke hash, other than on top of weed in a pipe/bowl. If you list a way, please explain how you do it as well. Thanks.

[Green Supreme]

Mid grade hash in Gravity bong.Someones goin down.Peace GS

[Alaska]

Hey agent smith, I have a thread from a couple months ago that explains just that. Heres the link. Its called "how to smoke has sans paper, pipe, weed, or pins"

Hope it helps

A


https://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=886&highlight=smoke+hash

[Agent-Smith]

Thanks Alaska, I saw that one but I don't have that much hash, that was the reason for making this thread. :teeth:

[Alaska]

It works with very small worms as well, the smallest I've done is about the size of the stick that insense comes on, not the big stick, but the small nag champa sticks

A

[webfish]

For small amouts of hash: you need one pin an old book you dont care about a small glass you make rocks drinks in take the hash make a little ball put it on a pin (the pin has been stuck through the cover of the book and is sticking straight up) light it till it flames then cover with the glass quickly it will go out and smoke up the glass you then lift the glass edged and breath in all the smoke, you should be sitting down lol or you may end up on the floor..

Another option is hot knives take small ball place it on cold knife heat other knife till very warm press the hot knife on the hash and cold knife breath in the emitting smoke through a toilet paper tube, this is a little ghetto but it works well, as abouve you should sit down to do this till your used to the rush you will get...

[vapor]

RooR

[Bram]

hot knife it

[c-ray]

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[Bram]

yuck, it looked like the guy handling the knives hit the plastic with them, I hate it when people do that and give ya a nice toke of plastic :nono:

[Cookie]

I'm a fan of the pin, book and glass method myself but the hot knife trick works very well also.

[Lungus]

yuck, it looked like the guy handling the knives hit the plastic with them, I hate it when people do that and give ya a nice toke of plastic :nono:
I used to use an airhorn from a truck. The end was large and easy to hit with the blades but the volume of air that needed to be sucked in was small so it ws easy to get the whole hit. It could also be frozen to cool the hoots, one just be careful not to freeze one's lips to it.

[Lucas]

I like to smoke hash from a small clay bowl and thru a long wooden stem. A Morroccan Sipse pipe:

http://www.shop-morocco.com/moroccan-pipes-hookahs--sheshas-9-c.asp

[ZoraK.]

The best way to smoke hash is bots. Put a fatty piece of hash onto the end of a cigarette, stick the cigarette through the side of any bottle, let the bot brew and take the toke. One bot will usually put you out cold.

[Lungus]

Even back when I smoked ciggies I hated the taste of bottle tokes, that's what us old timers called them, when they were off the end of a smoke. Never heard of bots but it's the same thing. For me, pipes, specifically glass pipes, are the best way to smoke hash. If you want an even better taste experience doing bots, go to a head shop and get some shisha charcoals for hooka pipes and use pieces of those to burn your bots and you will get a much purer taste without the nasty ciggies.

[c-ray]

or you can do your bots using pure weed joints instead of ciggies

[zoomboom]

my favorite way to smoke high quality hash is with smokeless hookah charcoal. since i usually smoke alone or with one other person, i can break a piece up into several smaller pieces and use those. i inhale the vapor coming off the coal with a glass or metal tube. i s'pose you can use a plastic tube (a la bic pen) if you make sure not to let it melt.

they generally can be had at any head shop...

[DOZEE]

i like to roll it in my fingers till it resembles a lil stick"you may have to heat it first" then lite it like an incence and hit the smoke coming of the lit end . use crutch if u have to to hold.

[Lucas]

Moroccan Sipse, Olive wood with Clay Bowl

this is know as a Kif pipe there, not keef as we know resin powder in the west, to them Kif is chopped bud, mixed with chopped black tobacco

what we call keef in the west, is called Hashish in Morocco

the powder is stored until it is pressed into slabs, using a hot cast iron book press

my handmade treatment of bubble bag powder is to make balls

in the photo are

120micron and 73 micron balls

One heaping teaspoon of dry powder, heated for 8 seconds in the microwave, in a baggie, then twisted into a ball with a cloth napkin over the baggie.

Pressing and twinsting until the ball condenses to less than half its original size.

a second microwaving of 5 seconds and a second twisting improves darkness and quality

if you are averse to the microwave, try immersing the baggie in a cup of boiled water.. heat is your friend

Pressed powder smokes thicker and cooler than plain powder.

[Green Supreme]

Shouldn't good powder press without heat unless you are doing a massive chunk. I have many times pressed pieces that size in my hand with only body heat applied. Sorry about my adverse reaction microwaves and hash just don't seem right to me. Peace GS

ps thanks for the clarity. All to often I hear people calling hash powder kif or kief or keef.Mixing tobacco with hash powder is blasphemy. LOL

[outdoordreams]

I like to roll unpressed hash into my joints, using 50-70%weed, and 30-50%hash.

Make sure you smoke the joint with the cherry pointed to the ground.
This way all the resin will fall into the cherry and vaporize!
Tastier and more potent!

Packing my favorite hash pipe is always a great way to smoke the pressed hash! Just break it up into small chunchs.

No more blades for me. No more burnt lips or plastic for this stoner.

Another great way to smoke hash is in the Glass on Glass vaporizor.
Just sprinkle the smallest amount of unpress hash on top of your weed bowl, and enjoy the goodness!

[outdoordreams]

It works with very small worms as well, the smallest I've done is about the size of the stick that insense comes on, not the big stick, but the small nag champa sticks

A

This is my new favorite way to smoke hash.
Just roll up a long worm.
Light the end until cherry forms, and smoke.
Again I like to put cherry toward the ground when inhaling, and till it up in between.
Happy tokin!

[Lucas]

The other day I was sampling a bowl of full melt with a friend. He used a glass bowl, stainless screen, and vaporized the hash with a Magnifying Glass in the Sun!

That heat source produces some of the tastiest samplings Ive had.

It borders on vaporizing with a Volcano, which imho, is the ultimate way to experience the true flavor of a sample.

btw, Im still looking to improve the quality of my extract, so am wondering if investing in the BubbleNow is a good move. Im getting the impression they produce a cleaner extract than hand mixing.. Anyone here having tried both care to comment?

Also, I watched BubbleMans video, and he uses a LOT more ice than I have been doing. That may be another reason my extract is not as pure, and does not bubble.

Thanks to GS for the education, and to everyone else sharing info here.

Lucas

[vapor]

bubblenow bubblenow bubblenow
you wont be sorry!
Be sure to use the whole kit 7 or 8 bags i forget

[Green Supreme]

What that guy said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Peace GS

[outdoordreams]

Less time you mix the better.
More ice the better. Crystallized snow works best. IMO

Magnifying Glass rules!!!!!! Try using a potatoe or carrot pipe!

[Lucas]

outdoordreams you make me smile.. a potato huh? I think an apple might be nice..

I note you have Flo, a strain with one of the most devastating afghani genes Ive tasted..

so, the bubblenow uses an extra prefilter bag.. I think that may be part of the magic

my extract is about 10% of starting material.. seems bubbleman got down to 5% of starting material.. that has a good potential to have more heads..

I probably mix way too long..

but I try to catch whatever I can until no more comes out.. Im a good catch anyway..

so I plan to get the allscreen bag that goes in a bubble now and give it a whack.. with more ice..

still not convinced I need a new washing machine.. but, if it leads to full melt, Im in.

smoking hash is sooo much cleaner than smoking bud.. and effective <g>

fwiw, I just had some afghani hash to sample, its still softer and smellier, and hits me harder, than my water extract.. that soft black afghan hash is sooo stony

they have been making hash in Afghanistan for a lot longer than I have been alive.. maybe they know a thing or two I have not figured out yet..

I like to learn :-), more testing required..

peace out
LucaStone

[outdoordreams]

The afghani hash is probably more potent, because they are not removing the water soluble terpenes, which may amplify the effects. When you press hash you change the chemical properties, so Im imagining that when they press the afghani hash they are making a different chemical process because they are including the water soluble terpenes.
The hash makers of Afghanistan usually cure the hashish for a full year before smoking. That may add to the effect.

[Kali]

Interesting odd, i did not know there were water soluble trichs. I thought they were resin glands only. resin being like oil does not mix with water. I think this calls for a dry seive and bubble bag experiment.....

Until then.... I like to roll a doob in the trichs of a plant close to harvest maybe a nice leaf or small bud covered in trichs and smoosh them into the rolled doob.
MMMMM tasty

[purplehaze2]

that does sound good kali.

[Lucas]

> The afghani hash is probably more potent, because they are not removing the water soluble trichomes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoids
"cannabinoids are nearly insoluble in water"

"and are concentrated in a viscous resin that is produced in glandular structures known as trichomes. In addition to cannabinoids, the resin is rich in terpenes"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpene
"Terpenes and terpenoids are the primary constituents of the essential oils of many types of plants and flowers."

> When you press hash you change the chemical properties
> Im imagining that when they press the afghani hash they are making a different chemical process because they are including the water soluble trichomes.

you write beautifully imaginative but totally not scientifically acurate

when resin powder gets pressed, the resin heads are crushed and exposed to heat and air. This causes degradation, loss of THC by oxydation.. not a good thing

hash powder is preserved best by not pressing until ready to be consumed

and no, pressed hash does not get stored to cure, there is no cure to hash

sorry to be the one to disagree with your coments, nothing about you personally.. we all have more to learn

me too.. if you have links to backup your ideas, I will read them


> I think this calls for a dry seive and bubble bag experiment

I ran a batch of dry material thru 4 bubble bags, a 220, a 120, a 73, and a 25, using an exhaust fan to pull dry sieve thru..

I then put the 73micron dry sieve powder back thru the bags wet.

only 20% of the dry sieve, came thru to the 73micron screen wet

that is to say, wet sieve 73micron is FAR superior to dry sieve 73 micron, because 80% of what is in the 73 dry sieve stays above the 120 and 220 screens when wetted..

smoke tests confirm the 73wet is of MUCH higher quality than the 73dry

ps, I highly recommend the book HASHISH! from RC Clarke, lots of info on afghani and other countries hashmaking processes
http://de1.erowid.org/library/books/hashish.html

[Green Supreme]

Should post some of theses thoughts on fullmeltbubble Lucas. Thanks for sharing the info. Peace GS

ps. think he might have meant the terps when he was speaking of water solubility

[outdoordreams]

Wow great post Lucas. Im glad someone's paying attention!
I was meaning to say the water soluble terpenes. Which are said to have an effect on the high. So when they get pressed into the hash they might change the chemistry and effect of the hash.

Where did I hear about the Afghani hash being cured for a full year? I read it somewhere. Ill look for it. I seem to remember them putting the hash into the earth for a year?

The boys at Legends, seem to think that Ruble is the best hash. This is 80-90%water/ice extracted hash, and 10-20% dry sieve hash. Mixed together and pressed.

Learning is the best part of CW! Im happy to learn from the best!

[Greens]

I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that terpenes and terpenoids are actually not water soluble. I'll see if I can find anything to back up this statement. With that said, however, I have noticed that dry sieve kif tends to have more flavour than bubble (well, good dry sieve that is).

Greens

[Greens]

I'm having a hard time finding any info, but check this out:

http://mulga.yage.net/acacia/phyto.html (Check this one)

http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/14905

http://chemicalland21.com/specialtychem/perchem/alpha-PINENE.htm

http://www.t2labs.com/info/Color%2002%20Material%20Compatibility.pdf

[Lucas]

> post some of theses thoughts on fullmeltbubble

thanks for the encouragement and support GS, feel free to share anything I post..

> ps. think he might have meant the terps when he was speaking of water solubility

yes, that is what I was thinking too, which is why I posted
""Terpenes and terpenoids are the primary constituents of the essential oils"

which seems to imply that terpenoids are not water soluble

> I was meaning to say the water soluble terpenes.

I was unable to locate any reference to terpenes being water soluble, although like you, in the past I was led to believe that they existed, from something I read a long time ago.. I think we might be mistaken..

http://mulga.yage.net/acacia/phyto.html
" Terpenes, oils and resins - Generally water insoluble organic compounds"

http://chemicalland21.com/specialtychem/perchem/alpha-PINENE.htm
alpha-PINENE "SOLUBILITY IN WATER Insoluble"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycyclic_aromatic_hydrocarbon
"Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons are lipophilic, meaning they mix more easily with oil than water. "

> 80-90%water/ice extracted hash, and 10-20% dry sieve hash

I also read that water soluble terpenes are responsible for the flavor of pot, and that like with aromatherapy, the smells we get from cananbis, may have an effect in the direction of the high..

it was this belief that made me do the dry vs wet experiment. Dry sieve is not more potent, and I dont even find it tastier to smoke.. the only thing I CAN say is that dry sieve has more smells than wet

I compared my 75 dry sieve smell to the 75 wet sieve and 25 wet sieve (after drying everything)

it appeared to me that the smell of the 75wet was only part of the smell in 75 dry. The 25 wet had another part of the smell that was also in the 75 dry.. I dont happen to like the smell of the 25..

so, its possible that the different smells of dry sieve are in fact being captured, AND separated, in the different grades of screen...

but in terms of potency, wet is far superior, and, it smokes sweeter and not as hot if pressed instead of consumed as powder. Wet sieve pressed smokes cooler and sweeter than dry sieve pressed.

I think its because dry sieve has a lot of plant dust that burns hotter than wet sieve, whose dust has been washed out..

so, even though I wanted to support my bias that water hash is missing the flavor and aromatically active water soluble terpenes, I was unable to prove that true in my test..

Note this tidbit about terpenes
http://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/14905
"Generally not soluble in water. Generally less dense than water. Flash point 100-200°F."

the part about being less dense than water means to me, that the terpenes night float, like oil on top of water, they dont sink like the trichomes..

This may be why we all perceive less smell in wet sieve than dry sieve.. not sure..

Also note that the terpenes volatize at 100-200F, this is way below the temperature at which we vaporize cannabis resin to release THC at 392F

implication being that terpenes are long gone by the time a sample gets up to temperature that will vaporize the hash..

imho, that is why a volcano is so good, it captures all the vapors and smells, including terpenes

and I do like terpenes

very interesting discussion, thanks to everyone participating in my education and shared worship of the wonders of Cannabis

Lucas

ps

Greens nailed the reference I was vaguely remembering, a post by Sam the Skunkman..

http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/archive/index.php/t-1479.html
"Greens
07-17-2006, 05:15 AM
There was such a great thread on this subject started by Sam the Skunkman back at OG. He had access to pure terpenoids and pure THC and decided to experiment with them. Quite facinatingly, he came to the conclusion that certain terpenoids that are present in cannabis definetely affect/enhance/degrade the high from THC. I remember him saying that myrcene, for example, made the high heavier with more couchlock feeling. He speculated that the terpenoids might have just as much affect on the high as cannabinoid ratios do and that they may play a huge role in the "character" of the high from different strains. "

and

"Greens
07-18-2006, 08:10 PM
I found this little article online. I think it was written by the Skunkman himself by the sounds of it. I remember him saying he used the volcano during his experiments (should have used the Vrip though because it's so much stronger. lol)

See, I knew something was up with the limonene and that's why I love the lemon swiss so much.

OK, here it is from http://www.ccrmg.org/journal/06spr/candc.html

"Studying the Effects of Terpenes

To the Society of Cannabis Clinicians:
Most interesting to me are the modulating effects of the 120
Terpenoids found in Cannabis. Pure THC is pretty boring, flat, one dimensional with little individuality. Not sure I would be a Cannabis smoker if THC was all there was. But add a small amount of Terpenoids and the picture changes, some Terpenoids like Limonene make the subjective high much faster in onset and much stronger, with rushes, more clear, speedy, up, cerebral, euphoric, psychedelic. While other
Terpenoids like Myrcene make the THC physical, mellow, sleepy, as well as stronger.
It has been obvious to me for more then 20 years that Terpenoids played a major role in modulating the effects of THC, but now for the first time I have proof. I did the work with a volcano, using liquid pads for putting the Cannabinoids/Terpenoids on, and used Cannabinoids that were 99%+ purity.
I tried pure THC, THCV, CBD, CBN, CBG, and CBC will be next, I have gram+ amounts of each. I have also tried a dozen pure Terpenoids with and without Cannabinoids. I used the Musty drug reaction scale before and after dosing as well as a better more specific one designed by myself for all of the tastes, smells and effects of the Terpenoid/Cannabinoid
inter-reactions. I have 10 subjects so far doing the testing with me.
The bottom line is that all of the reported different effects of
different varieties of Cannabis are reputed to be from the
Cannabinoids. But besides the effects from THC and very occasional small amounts of CBD found in herbal Cannabis, all of the different reported subjective effects are in fact from the Terpenoids/THC. This has to be good news for proponents of herbal Cannabis over pure THC for medicine? I do not know if the Terpenoids are as active in modulating THC if the dose is oral by eating.

Name Withheld, Frankfurt, Germany"

Here's something else I found at this site talking about the advantages of herbal cannabis over synthetic THC - http://www.nova-institut.de/nr/bh2000/english/macpartland.htm

"Cannabidiol (CBD) possesses sedative properties, and clinical trials show it reduces the anxiety provoked by THC. Similarly, terpenoids in Cannabis also possess sedative properties when inhaled, such as linalool, citronellol, and a-terpineol. Terpenoids may also mitigate memory loss. THC causes cholinergic deficits in the hippocampus, which can be reversed by inhibiting acetylcholinesterase; this inhibition is provided by limonene, limonene oxide, a-terpinene, g-terpinene, terpinen-4-ol, carvacrol, l- and d-carvone, p-cymene, fenchone, pulegone, and 1,8-cineole.
Inhalation of 1,8-cineole increases cerebral blood flow and enhances cortical activity. Many aforementioned terpenoids, cannabinoids (CBD, cannabichromene, cannabigerol), and flavonoids (cannaflavins, apigenin, quercetin) have potent antiinflammatory activity or serve as neuroprotective antioxidants. These same compounds kill bacteria and fungi which may contaminate bacteria, they inhibit the growth of human carcinoma cells, and they serve other useful functions."

Now, I remember Skunkman talking about linalool strongly affecting the high from pure THC...

Greens"

[c-ray]

from http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/107613670/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
Many essential oils are produced by the process of steam distillation. During this process valuable oxygenated components of the oil which have relatively higher solubility in water are preferentially lost in the distillate water. This loss is directly reflected in a lower yield and poor quality of the oil. Adsorption is extensively used for recovery of such valuable organics from dilute aqueous streams. This paper describes a preliminary study on the feasibility of adsorptive recovery. The following synthetic polymeric adsorbents were used in this work: Amberlite XAD-2, XAD-4 and XAD-7. Equilibrium and column exahaustion studies were carried out for the adsorption of phenyl ethyl alcohol (PEA), linalool (LL) and eugenol (EG) and also of mixtures of PEA and LL, and EG and LL from dilute aqueous solutions. The results indicate that XAD-4 is a relatively better adsorbent for all the three solutes studied.

in essential oil distillation most of the essential oils will rise to the top of the distillate while some will stay behind in the water, which is referred to as a hydrosol -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrosol

I'll guess it is the lighter more volatile components that are water soluble but I have no reference to back that up just a hunch

but.......I don't think the only problem is that some oils that are 'relatively' soluble in water, I think another major problem is that essential oils oxidize in water and lose their aromas/flavours as happens in the ice hash making process...

[vapor]

i think terps is the main reason i like my beard mm terps!

[Greens]

so, its possible that the different smells of dry sieve are in fact being captured, AND separated, in the different grades of screen...

but in terms of potency, wet is far superior, and, it smokes sweeter and not as hot if pressed instead of consumed as powder. Wet sieve pressed smokes cooler and sweeter than dry sieve pressed.

I think its because dry sieve has a lot of plant dust that burns hotter than wet sieve, whose dust has been washed out..



This hypothesis is definetely very likely. I too have noticed that the different grades of bubble have different smells (I have also found that the 25 doesn't smell nearly as good as the 73).

When it comes to potency of dry versus wet sieve, I don't think I agree with you 100%. Yes, under most conditions, it's easier to make more potent bubblehash than dry sieve. However, I've found that some strains will actually make more potent dry sieve than bubble (usually outdoor strains for some reason). I think it's because the dust is washed off the buds when grown outdoors. Indoors, dry sieve is full of dust. With a strain like guerilla gold, the dry sieve is mind-blowing and is always melty. I've made full melt clear dome dry sieve with this strain many times and it is more potent than any bubble I've ever made from GG and much tastier (but I've made bubble with some indoor strains that were just as potent and tasty and the dry sieve from these strains were bunk in comparison. lol) I usually leave my dry kif as powder, but normally press the bubble (well, it usually forms a gooey ball no matter what I do. lol)

As you can see from my quotes, I am convinced that terps play a large role when it comes to the strength and the type of high you get from cannabis. I am a huge fan of limonene and pinene!

[Greens]

Hey c-ray, why just say no to backcrosses? I'd never get to grow the freezeland otherwise (and the BX plants turned out very much like the mom).

[Lucas]

> I am convinced that terps play a large role when it comes to the strength and the type of high you get from cannabis. I am a huge fan of limonene and pinene!

I also use the smell of cannabis as a predictor of its effect, and I like the smell of Trainwreck as a marker for its high.. I dont know which terpene its aroma represents, possibly α-Terpinolene

a list of terpenes here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_sativa

now Im asking myself these questions, and invite more info..

IF the α-Terpinolene is washed out of the hash made with water, but is present in hash made from dry screening.. might that change the high from the hash, as compared to the bud?

I like Sam the Skunkmans implication that the terpenes influence the direction of the high or type of high.. speedy or narcotic for example..

however, I dont think that is true from my experience with smoking hash vs bud of the same strain.. I believe trainwreck hash retains trainwreck's speedy high, even if the smell is different than the smell in the unwashed bud.

I think the reason hash seems to have a heavier high than bud, is because when using hash, there is a stronger dosage in the hit, so the cannabinoid receptors get more saturated from hash, than from bud

this goes to Mr. Soul's comment that smoking a bat of Polm, or resin powder, tends to have a similar effect, regardless of strain, and that although bud has lots of variation in effect between strains, he claimed that with hash, the effect is more similar between strains..

In some ways I agree with that, the high from all hash tends to be deeper, or fuller, than from bud.. but,

now to rethink the terpene question based on Soul's comments, could suggest that removing terpenes by water washing is what is causing a more homogeneous type of high between different strains

iow, the difference is dissapearing with the terpenes?

the idea of terpenes getting dispersed into the water seems to have merit, and I appreciate the opportunity to learn more

I do agree that bubble hash loses a lot of the smell of the original bud.. whether bubblehash loses potency along with the loss of terpenes, I dont think so.. and whether hash loses the direction of the high with the loss of terpenes, I dont think so either..

to me, hash from trainwreck is much more speedy, than hash from X-13, so I do think, and disagree with Soul, that different strains produce different effects, even in the hash..

this implies that terpenes are smell markers that I associate with the high, but they do not actually cause the high.. cause bubble hash definitely contains the active ingredient that gets me high, even if I lose the smell

end ramble

[Green Supreme]

Man we need to get some of Skunkmans terp research here. He has done extensive tests with pure thc. Not even sure where to begin looking though. Thanks for inciting more discussion.

a little side note. For me I don't find hash to be heavy. Most of the good hash I have puffed has created an up high. I have often pondered if the up high is created by more potency than couchock. There's something for the brain to chew on. Peace GS

[Greens]

this implies that terpenes are smell markers that I associate with the high, but they do not actually cause the high.. cause bubble hash definitely contains the active ingredient that gets me high, even if I lose the smell



I don't know because this contradicts all the research done by the Skunkman. He says that when vaping the pure THC, the high was there but lacking. He said only when he combined pure THC with a pure terpene, such as limonene, did the desired effects occur. He and others concluded that limonene combined with THC makes the high more uplifting, clear, and powerful than just the pure THC.

He said that mixing the pure THC with pure myrcene made the high much more heavy, stoney, relaxing, and powerful than pure THC. He said that linalool has a similar effect.

Some things I've noticed just from vaping and smoking herbs are:

Lemony herb tends to be uplifting, happy, euphoric.

Skunky or piney herbs tend to be stupifying and satisfying.

Fruity (like blueberry) herb tends to be relaxing and mellow.

[Lucas]

great info about Skunkman's use of terpenes in combination with THC, thanks

here are some more random associations

Citrus and berry smells come from Kush, lemon, orange and blueberry. the high though relaxing is not as narcotic as Afghani. strain examples include Cali O and Blueberry.


Earthy smells come from Afghani, dank and skunky.. associated with heavy body high. strain examples, Afghani #1.

Tropical fruit smells come from Sativas like thai, pineapple, mango, sweet fruit... usually more bright and visual than indicas, though often also very relaxing, but with a stimulating element to the high. examples thai

minty and turpentine smells, stimulating, clear, non sedative. example trainwreck.

skunk #1 is a cross of Afghani #1 to mexican x colombian x thai. It exhibits the fruity smell of thai, as well as the dank smell of Afghan 1. the high is closer to a body high than a cerebral high..

hybrids can inherit any combination of parental traits.. a sativa smell can combine with an indica high..

I like the concept Skunkman proposes that THC is the horsepower, but terpenes set the direction, of the high..

Im finding hash made from X-13 very strong, but not very sedative.. I find X-13 bud more sedative than the hash.. the hash seems clearer..

I also have been smoking hash from Trainwreck, SSH, and DTC, mixed together.. I do not find it as sedative as SSH by itself..

for whatever reason, my water washed hash seems to not have a very sedative effect.. possibly due to the strains having a lot of sativa genes..

by contrast, I recently smoked some imported black afghani hash, which I found very sedative.. Imported hash is not water washed.. which leaves open the possibility that if that has was water washed it might remove some of the terpenes that are influencing the sedative aspect of the high..

thanks for the interesting discussion
Lucas