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joe6pack
08-04-2006, 05:20 AM
OK - I made some seeds - oregon90 x burmese pure and the are nice and striped and dark and fresh

other than removing them from the buds what do I need to do? should they be left out to dry for awhile?

when can I germinate these?

I read that some people growing lowryder recommended throwing fresh seeds in the freezer for a day or two to increase germination right away.

-joe

p.s. - I'd like to germ some of these A.S.A.P.

c-ray
08-04-2006, 05:36 AM
leave 'em out on cardboard, paper, etc for at least a few weeks then into an envelope, let them air dry for another month or 2, then into a jar with some rice, bury outside, or fridge, or germinate

p.s. - they need about a month of drying/curing before you'll get optimal germination, but a couple of weeks air dry and 2-3 days in the fridge will do

joe6pack
08-04-2006, 05:46 AM
c-ray, thanks that's just what I needed to know -

I have them sitting on a paper plate on a piece of brown paper on a wire shelf rack in the closet at 50% rh - I'll probably throw some in the fridge in two or three weeks and try to germ.

-joe

Alaska
08-04-2006, 07:10 AM
Be careful, as I was drying some seed and had a mice eat about 300 feminized seeds, bummer, but other than that all the info so far is right

A

CottonBalls
08-05-2006, 02:31 AM
In my experience as soon as the buds are dry the beans are good to go.
Just crumble the buds, sort out the beans, and pop them in whatever germ method you use.

I have never had ANY issues whatsoever with them (as long as they were good and ripe seeds, not white, not green).

Buckwheat
08-05-2006, 02:52 AM
^^^^^^^^^
No harm in drying them like stated in above posts but I've had them fall out of mom and sprout in the same pot mom is in. No need to dry them for two months they are ready to go as soon as they are done.

I usually just toss mine in an envelope with some rice and call it done.

It's a weed.

webfish
08-07-2006, 04:12 AM
^^^^^^^^^
No harm in drying them like stated in above posts but I've had them fall out of mom and sprout in the same pot mom is in. No need to dry them for two months they are ready to go as soon as they are done.

I usually just toss mine in an envelope with some rice and call it done.

It's a weed.


+1

Flowerman
09-13-2006, 03:24 AM
Alaska this ones 4 U;)

d-lite
09-13-2006, 06:46 AM
In my experience as soon as the buds are dry the beans are good to go.
Just crumble the buds, sort out the beans, and pop them in whatever germ method you use.

I have never had ANY issues whatsoever with them (as long as they were good and ripe seeds, not white, not green).

yep

oftern seen new plants sprounting in fall because seeds became loose from the buds above

mother nature dries them untill they fall out, one day of sun is enough ;)

mace
09-13-2006, 08:53 AM
wasn't there something about raising dormancy?

c-ray
09-13-2006, 10:02 AM
raising dormancy?

mace
09-13-2006, 10:51 AM
not sure if its called "raising" it

wild cannabis whose seeds would germinate just after dropping from the buds to the ground would have a really hard time to survive anywhere else than in the tropics.
After autumn comes winter, no point in sprouts trying to grow through snow.

http://3e.plantphys.net/article.php?ch=t&id=8
http://plantphys.info/seedg/seed.html

c-ray
09-13-2006, 11:31 AM
yes I see well if I was a wild plant I would want to drop my seeds as late as possible in the fall, to avoid late germination

mace
09-13-2006, 11:46 AM
another link, stolen from grasshoper in his phytochrome thread
http://scidiv.bcc.ctc.edu/rkr/Biology203/lectures/pdfs/EnvReg203.pdf
from page 16
Vernalization
Seeds in areas that have seasonal temperature differences cannot
germinate unless exposed to a specific period of cold. In a similar fashion,
many plants will not flower until the plant has been exposed to cold
temperatures. Perennials that have bulbs or corms frequently require a cold
period to break dormancy and initiate above ground growth and flowering.
This cold requirement to break bud or seed dormancy is called
vernalization. Artificially inducing plants to break dormancy by providing
the essential treatment is called stratification. Some temperature
requirements can be overridden with gibberellins.

it might not be true for all cannabis plants, but its something to be considered.
If germination rates ain't what they are supposed to be, it might be that we treated the seeds to gently.

c-ray
09-13-2006, 12:31 PM
I love google:
http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/Y4011E/y4011e0f.htm

mace
09-13-2006, 12:35 PM
nice c-ray
from the article
[quote]Freezing tolerance was also found to be associated with prostrate growth type. A gene controlling prostrate growth was found to be closely linked with Fr1 and Vrn1 on chromosome 5A (Roberts, 1990). Prostrate growth type can also be found in cultivars with low vernalization requirements but high photo-periodic response. These wheat genotypes are usually only moderately winter-hardy, but in barley some of the most cold-tolerant cultivars are known as day-length sensitive, with low vernalization requirement. Many other traits have been reported to be associated with cold tolerance, but none of the correlations is high enough to allow replacing the direct freezing tests (S