First time icewater hash Q??

[Agent-Smith]

Hey guys, I know this may seem like a dumb question but I can't seem to find it in any searches. I just got a 3 bag system from a friend and was wondering exactly how I use it. I mean, I'm guessing that you put all three bags on one bucket, mix in the first bag and the first bag is used as the catcher for the leaf correct? Then the other 2 bags is what you scrape the hash off of right?

[vapor]

http://www.bubblebag.com/instructions/

[trichomefarmer]

thats usually how it goes.
are the bags labelled as to size of mesh?

[Agent-Smith]

thanks vapor, appreciate it! :teeth:

[Agent-Smith]

no mine just say, 1, 2, 3

[joe6pack]

a-s

a couple tips from my experience

1. hand mixing produces better quality and also it is pretty easy to get the mixer caught on the bags and you get a big mess :( so handmixing is my prefered method.

2. Fresh trim placed in the freezer after cutting produces the best hash. Dried trim will tend to break up more and more of the unwanted plant material will end up in the hash. Not to say dry trim doesn't produce good hash too - in fact yield is higher with dry trim.


You'll have to figure out which bag goes in first - either the 1 or the 3 - you want the bag with the smallest mesh in the bucket first then stick the number 2 bag inside that, then the biggest bag last - then the ice, trim, and water.

The bag with the smallest mesh will drain slowest so try pouring water into the number 3 and number 1 bag - the one that drains slowest is the bag that you want in the bucket first.

[Papi]

I got tired of my 8 bag set, and I only use three of them now, the blue weed bag, a 120 bag to catch all the crap, and a 25 bag to catch the goodie. All those different bags was a hassle and I don't mind having my 73, 45, and 25 u hash combined.

[Razz]

the 45, and 73 is what you want, papi.

[mtn grown]

hey A-S,joe hit it on the head,put all three in the bucket.and i think the blue is the 'weed' bag.you can tell the bottom bag,its a thicker material.(red maybe?)

good luck and have fun:) mmmm bubble

[Agent-Smith]

I figured it out, 1 is the trim bag, then 2 and 3 being the best! :teeth:

[Dobie]

yo agent, you'll wanna use 2 buckets.....one with all your bags in, the other is your mixing bag......you start out in bucket one, beat the shit outta it, and dump into bucket 2 already set up with your bags.......by using a 'mix'ucket, you WILL save wear and tear on the mesh of your bags....

btw, I use a paint mixer with a cordless drill :)

[Agent-Smith]

Thanks for the idea Dobie, I'm gonna hand stir it though since I don't have more than three bags. :teeth:

[Bram]

do two runs too. Mix the first run for about 8 minutes or so by hand. I prefer using a piece of 36" x 1" dowel fo this. do the second run with a paint mixer.

[plantbuilder]

papi you should just catch in the 45µ then
peace
pb

[Agent-Smith]

Here's my first run......I know they are bad pics but each piece is about 4 times thicker than the dime. The first pic is bag number 2 and the other is bag 3. These are my first runs, I will be making probably 2 or 3 more runs tomorrow. :teeth:

[joe6pack]

the 45, and 73 is what you want, papi.

depends what you grow - some sativa's will give you nothing decent in the 45 and 73 and then you're like damn there's some pure love in the 23~25 bag :) this is especially true if they were not fully done

[Bogey]

Papi....Got to agree that the 73 and 45 is what you want .....Have found that the 45 many times is the snizzle....73 is also good for many indicas....AS...Yes mixing it all in seperate bucket is certainly the way to go....Now send me a sample so i can check you work lol......Enjoy.....

[Bram]

not bad. Did you hand mix? how many handfuls of leaf ya use approx.?

[Agent-Smith]

Yeah I hand mixed. I used about 4 sandwich bags full like the instructions said. I'm gonna run it again to see if I get anything else. After all, what's it cost???? ICE? LOL :D

[Bram]

nice. Ya, I would run a second time, with a paint mixer. I like to smoke the hand mix str8 and mix the second run (which is greener) in spliffs.

[Cannafornia]

Even the lowest grade bubble hash makes for very powerful cooking material. Try it with the green shit that won't bind together.

[Agent-Smith]

I made a second run today, got the same amount out of it this time too. :teeth:

[sky high]

found this link the other day. Hit the scroll arrow to advance the show faster.

http://ornorml.org/omca/hash/OMCA2005%20Making%20Bubble%20Hash.ppt

[sky high]

It's been a few days now bro, you enjoying the bub?

Question for anyone out there with experience...

What's the best way to prep the buds/weed before starting the water/ice extraction process? I have a bunch of sativa-type weed with sativa type stems...so what do I do....bust it all off the stem? Grind it up? Do nothing? Freeze it?

What approach will utilize/get the most out of this bud? (yes, some will be made into BHO)

thanks

[Bram]

if it has hooked trichomes, I would just butane it all.

[Green Supreme]

I like to water extract once with Bubble Bags,the I give it to my friend who makes kick ass weed butter with it.He uses it in very unique Carribean recipes.Very tasty,very effective.Wouldn't grind it as that makes more green matter the size of the pores.Hence greener hash.Freezing is good.Colder is better.Remove stems first.Peace GS

[Papi]

Question for anyone out there with experience...

What's the best way to prep the buds/weed before starting the water/ice extraction process? I have a bunch of sativa-type weed with sativa type stems...so what do I do....bust it all off the stem? Grind it up? Do nothing? Freeze it?

What approach will utilize/get the most out of this bud? (yes, some will be made into BHO)

thanks

Hi SH, I would never grind the herbs for bubblemaking, if its larger bud material maybe break it apart a bit by hand, but you want to avoid creating any leaf powder or grit. Freezing the material fresh off the plant is the way to go rather than drying it first, since I changed to that method the product is much much cleaner with little to no green contaminant.

[sky high]

Thanks for the info, papi. Was pretty much what I figured...just wanted some reassurance.

I looked at the trichs on this pot and they are very small. This made me think that the yeild with bubblebags may not be all that great and that I needed to use a solvent to get at as much of the goodness as I can.

Yesterday I ran 4 Mason jars of buds through a 97% ISO wash and then squeezed all of the remaining liquids out by placing the soaked buds in a large peice of 230 silkscreen and TWISTING it like a mo-fo. This batch is just now getting dry...so I've yet to test it but it sure LOOKS good. VERY red.

I also have 12 cans of butane...so tomorrow I'm gonna run whatever weight it takes to jet through about 6 tubes (@ 2 cans of bute per tube).

whatever budz are left will be used in another ISO wash.

I still want to give the bubblebags a try but after reading what you and other folks have to say on the forum about the topic I think it wise to prepare properly for it at a later date by saving fresh frozen trim from the next harvest and by using a more indica based strain w/more trichs.

[sky high]

This is the result of the first wash. This blob is nearly 1/8" thick, but as you can see you can still shine a light under the dish and see through it.

Question: Will this mass firm up any over time or will it remain slightly gooey?
Can this substance be refined further? My experience with BHO is that it firms up over time. I also notice that the temperature/conditions you make the BHO in result in a differently textured product. (Some of the best BHO I've made was made outside in mid-winter) Is ISO similar in it's characteristics?

If it stays like this I'm gonna have to go in search of one of those glass hash oil bubblers from the 70's... ;-) cough..hack....

[Green Supreme]

Sky one of the most important parts of making bubble is drying the product out.All to often I meet people so interested in having melty bubble that they will leave water in it to make it look like melty hash.If you think you have melty hash here's a way to be sure.After taking hash off the screen you put it on a piece of silk screen for drying.{I suggest 25m as hash won't likely press through it}Put a dish towel under the silk screen.Fold the screen and towel over the hash and pat dry lightly.Remove patty of hash from silk screen and put it onto a chunk of cardboard.With a razor blade chop the patty to a fine powder.Mark hash on cardboard with a Sharpie so you don't forget which one you put where.Leave it in a warm dry place for 24hrs.Presto,bone dry hash.I like to keep mine in powder form{Some like to press it}.This powder should melt to a little puddle when lit,if you have good hash.Many people try this method and find out their hash isn't melty,so they go back to leaving some water in it to make it appear melty.Remember water left in there can start mold,then the piece is worthless.Not the idea here.Good luck and welcome to the World of Bubble.Peace GS

[sky high]

Thanks for the info on the bubble, GS. I'm hopin to do a run of that sometime in the near future. Should have a bounty of trimmage comin down the way in a few weeks.

To clarify, my question was about the ISO wash "oil". The liquid has evaporated off and I'm now left with a jelly-like red goo. It's firm but can be smeared around. Anything higher than room temp and this stuff will run/melt, but it can't be made into a ball or easily transferred at this point. My question was to ask if it will harden up over time more like BHO tends to do...or is this the final product? (I've made BHO 20X or more in the last 10 years and know it's characteristics, but don't know anything about ISO oil)

any info appreciated. This stuff (made from Dman's Red Widow13--- Black Widow13 x Panama Red) is the reddest oil I've seen since we got mls. of "honey oil" back in about '77-'78 that were the pinnacle/measure of what I call 'oil". (I'm guessing that this may have been further refined? Ether or something more complex than alcohol/butane?? Anyone??)