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Agent-Smith
06-09-2006, 07:23 AM
So I'm about to start my next grow and I have so many great strains that I'm not sure which one I should run. I don't have alot of height....only about 24-27" and they each get a 6" square footprint. Now me personally, I don't know crap about these strains unfortunately and it's hard to find info....so you guys of all people will know so please, please, please let me know, LOL :teeth:

I will definitely be trying my NYCD x Blackberry Widow cross which I only got 3 seeds from :( but hopefully one is a good purpleish girlie :) !!

Here's the rest:

Baloney Blue by Clips
Blockhead F2
Bubblicious
C99 F2
C99 F3
Danny Boy x Crystal Loco BX1 by 2MJW
Dirty Blue Tooth x Double Sour Diesel
Ducksfoot x Blueberry by 3LB
(Ghaze x DTC99) x Crystal Loco BX1 by 2MJW
Grapefruit Surprise
((Green Giant x Ice Princess) x Kiwi) x (Green Giant x Ultimate Blue Moonshine)
(Indica x Firecracker) x (Green Giant x Ultimate Blue Moonshine)
LUI x Northern Lights
MK Ultra by Duff
Rosetta Stone
Venomberry F2
White Widow x AK-47
Zindica x A-13

Thanks guys!! :teeth:

plantbuilder
06-09-2006, 07:44 AM
there is no question about it on that list... rosetta stone
please do tell us more about those particular beans.
peace.
plantbuilder

Quagmire
06-09-2006, 08:14 AM
Grapefruit Surprise: started 5, got 4 girls, every one was a winner. I'm popping more now along with C99 and some other goodies.
Grapefruit Surprise-mebeanboy the mothers were GFM, GF Pukeberry and GF. The fathers were Orange Spice f1, GF, GFM, and C99f1.

Ducksfoot x Blueberry : started 9, got 5(?) girls, one was webbed, decent smoke.... you have better choices.

Venomberry F2: started 5, 1 girl, was good smoke... nice, happy, stupid shit eatin grin on your face good smoke... (many?) other's have had poor results

Cuzin_Dave
06-09-2006, 08:14 AM
I must concur with PB. Grow that Rosetta Stone.

CannyBus
06-09-2006, 09:00 AM
The Bubblicious (Dman I assume) should grow low and full, it takes well to topping, and is some very fine smoke indeed.

The "Huey" Ducksfoot x blueberry (3LB) did not give me much problem at all height wise, it also clones fairly easily. it's another that will take well to topping if need be.

Agent-Smith
06-09-2006, 03:18 PM
Yeah I know I'm having trouble figuring it out too! LOL :D

So far the Rosetta Stone sounds like it might win....it came from a source who wishes to remain nameless. I've heard alot about them so I just might try it.

The DBT x DSD came from ViRedd especially for Triiniity since she loved the smoke so much!

CannyBus is really making me think about the Huey and the Bubblicious because of the short stature and limited room I have to grow with.

ARGH.....decisions decisions!!

Agent-Smith
06-09-2006, 03:56 PM
Like I said before, I don't know the lineage or stats of any of these. Indica, Sativa, 8 weeks, 14 weeks, etc. I don't know any of it. I didn't really spend alot of time learning about them, just how to grow them, LOL. :D

I would like to know what I can though! :teeth:

BlueCelisWhite1
06-09-2006, 04:37 PM
Ive always wanted to try the Rossetta Stone. Thats one you dont see alot and it would be super cool to see or here about it from you.

GL

Cannana Bannana
06-09-2006, 04:59 PM
Blockhead is killer smoke and stretches very little during flowering. Yields well too. Sweet Tooth X unknown sativa (African sativa, I believe). An SOL creation. Good luck to you.

vapor
06-09-2006, 06:31 PM
rosetta stone is a bros grim creation it is white widow X cafe girl.grew it for a couple years really good yielder in certain situations, some phenos have a mango flavour with electric high then a body high/stone.other phenos were like the widow blan.all in all it was a beatiful plant peace are they f1 or?? grow them ...

vapor
06-09-2006, 06:34 PM
hey ghenghisbong do you still have some pics of the rosetta stone in dwc???

tj_142
06-09-2006, 06:35 PM
my sativa Venomberry sucked it tasted great but did not get you high, over 90 days of wasted time

Rosetta Stone would be my pic before those seeds get too old

vapor
06-09-2006, 06:36 PM
ya i feel tthe same about the venomberry^^^^

Shmokin
06-09-2006, 07:48 PM
I bet there are some gems in the Blockhead f2's. I'd search for a fast sativa leaning pheno with a killer buzz like the original f1 mom was supposed to have.

Green Supreme
06-09-2006, 08:50 PM
JKP not sure which graepefruit you are speaking of.Steves grapefruit came to him as "The only plant you'll ever need".I recall seeing the strain in the 1986 SSSC catalogue.Peace GS

vapor
06-09-2006, 09:00 PM
i was working with some grapefruits the other day and i was overwhelmed by the grapefruit smell coming after shaking the bush cant wait...

Green Supreme
06-09-2006, 09:28 PM
Dude you should smell your bedroom.GS

vapor
06-09-2006, 09:36 PM
i will!!!:rasta:

rosso reefo
06-09-2006, 09:36 PM
blockhead would be my choice..

CannyBus
06-09-2006, 11:02 PM
Info taken from original Listing,

Bubblicious,
Father: Bubbleberry (Bubblegum x Blueberry)
Mother: Bubblegum x NL5

Thats a 3-way hybrid, estimated flowering time 50-55 days.

Agent-Smith
06-10-2006, 01:21 AM
OK, so it's between, Blockhead..Rosetta Stone...and Bubblicious. So many choices.

Anybody have stats on the rosetta stone? flowering time, stretchy?

trichomefarmer
06-10-2006, 01:38 AM
Blockhead is killer smoke and stretches very little during flowering. Yields well too. Sweet Tooth X unknown sativa (African sativa, I believe). An SOL creation. Good luck to you.

blockhead is sweet tooth x product #19

product #19 was from oregon originally, and has nothing african in it as far as i know.

product #19 to this day is some of my favorite i've smoked.

i'd give the blockhead a go.

Green Supreme
06-10-2006, 02:21 AM
Still got P19 TF?

CannyBus
06-10-2006, 07:17 AM
BTW, as good as the Huey is, the only problem is you have to watch the stress, I have seen it hermie, but that trait seems recessive, I believe a Heat issue caused the couple i saw.

vapor
06-10-2006, 07:50 AM
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what i was trying to say is RS is 8-10 weeks,one pheno strechy and will double the other very widowesc

I_and_I
06-10-2006, 08:00 AM
Lui x NL
Blockhead

or

Zindica x A13.

irie:rasta:

muggles
06-10-2006, 05:14 PM
My vote is for the Rosetta Stone dependent upon how many times it is removed from the Bros Grimm originals. If F2's there is no doubt upon finding a keeper should a reasonable number be germinated. Once again, it also is dependent upon breeder selection, but, any female should be acceptable and a couple should be exceptional. Just my $.02...

Stay safe and watch your six!
Muggles :pipe:

Mais
06-10-2006, 05:32 PM
:horse: ditto on the Venomberry Sativa selection... waste of time

Rosetta Stone... are these the Sweetleaf beans? As I recall they were F2's and well spoken of. I'd love to see these grown out and wish I had a pack of them... damn I miss cbay.

kephra
06-10-2006, 08:28 PM
forgive me if i am wrong , but does'nt Grapefruit contain C99? ; for example FS Grapefruit is apparently 75%C99
any truth in this?

Female Seed's Grapefruit and the Grapefruit cutting (SPG), share no realation at all except for the name.

Agent-Smith
06-10-2006, 10:30 PM
The only problem is, I only have 2 Rosetta Stone seeds. I may just use them as well and pick a third.

So, I guess now it's:

NYCD x BBW
Rosetta Stone
and either bubblicious or blockhead.

Dman
06-11-2006, 01:25 AM
Hi Agent-Smith,

I'm biased, but I KNOW Bubblicious will fit your bill nicely. :teeth: I'd definitely go with the RS as well. I'm smoking 2 pheno's of 6 month cured RS now....VERY nice smoke indeed! ;)

GREENSEA4ME
06-11-2006, 01:47 AM
Hi Agent-Smith,

I'm biased, but I KNOW Bubblicious will fit your bill nicely. :teeth: I'd definitely go with the RS as well. I'm smoking 2 pheno's of 6 month cured RS now....VERY nice smoke indeed! ;)

russian star is some killer smoke,easy to grow & has a very unique taste,dman did great with these! the cherry ak47 x 98 aloha w.w x stargazer is such a gr8 combo,this 1 will stay in my garden forever....bubblicious is also a bowl full of dank berry fun...

Agent-Smith
06-11-2006, 01:53 AM
OK.....so it's settled. NYCD x BBW, Rosetta Stone, and Bubblicious! Thanks guys for the help, I should be starting them within a week or so. :teeth:

GREENSEA4ME
06-11-2006, 02:12 AM
OK.....so it's settled. NYCD x BBW, Rosetta Stone, and Bubblicious! Thanks guys for the help, I should be starting them within a week or so. :teeth:
good pix,you'll enjoy those.... hey are you kiema from cw? has anyone heard from him lately?

Cuzin_Dave
06-11-2006, 10:01 AM
Hope your 2 Rosetta Stone beans manage to pop. With any luck you will have a male and a female. If you make seeds when Ne =2 the coefficient of inbreeding will increase by 25%. Let's hope you get 2 great phenos for making yourself some seeds. There is almost no Rosetta Stone out there these days. Hope you are lucky. Rosetta Stone truly rocks.

Agent-Smith
06-11-2006, 03:32 PM
yeah, I'm Keima. I'm hoping for something good out of the rosetta stone. No matter what I get, I will be sure to share her with some good friends here at CW. :teeth:

Brick Top
06-11-2006, 06:36 PM
Blockhead F2 would be my choice.

You mentioned White Widow x AK 47. Isn't that normally called White Russian or was this some do it yourself type cross someone did?

Agent-Smith
06-11-2006, 07:08 PM
I'm not sure...I wasn't told the background of who made it.

Cuzin_Dave
06-12-2006, 08:58 AM
If you can do it, keep the Rosetta Stone line pure, uncontaminated and true breeding.

GrowGreen
06-12-2006, 09:08 AM
Thanks Mr. Smith.., you’ve inspired me to pop my BlockHead beans..

Anyone remember Flowerchild’s Blockhead balcony grows..what a sight to see..

:allgood2:
GG

Cuzin_Dave
06-12-2006, 09:24 AM
The guy who created Blockhead was most likely a Blockhead and knew dick all about the most basic genetic principles.

kephra
06-12-2006, 10:05 AM
The guy who created Blockhead was most likely a Blockhead and knew dick all about the most basic genetic principles.
:rofl:

In all probability you are most likely right. Though I love zee Blockhead.

Cuzin_Dave
06-12-2006, 10:28 AM
And most likely the Rosetta Stone will produce something of enduring value. Blockhead does not sound to enlightened. Too many "Blockheads" running around already.

GrowGreen
06-12-2006, 10:41 AM
Cuzin Dave
Thanks for your opinion...we all have them.

You are probably right. The guy breeding them was a blockhead and some would say a dick.. Lucky for us, the Breeder’s personality doesn’t infuse into the genetics..lucky for us all.. :)

:allgood2:

CannyBus
06-12-2006, 11:41 AM
Shit, i'll grow ANYTHING once, maybe twice. :)

Cannana Bannana
06-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Blockhead was the creation of Breeder Steve from SOL. A "dick" to some a top-notch canadian breeder to many. His genetics are the backbone of many, many strains out there.

country boy
06-12-2006, 07:33 PM
Pop as many as you have room for...
There might be an autoflowering male to yank and make a bit more room...
Pinch the tops to allow more points to take clones...
Once you've got roots on the clones, bloom the 'mothers' and see what you've got...

You weren't very specific as to if the stock was F1's or F2's (i only mention this because those RS's are golden...)

1 more thing: cull ruthlessly!

cb

Agent-Smith
06-13-2006, 01:35 AM
LOL CB, I'll be gifting most of my clones like I always do, so I'm sure the Rosetta stone will get back out into the hands of other growers again soon. :teeth:

ndnguy
06-13-2006, 03:55 AM
Good choices and good luck, no one wanted MK Ultra?? :hmm: LOL

Cuzin_Dave
06-13-2006, 08:24 AM
It goes beyond pulling the odd autoflowering male. That is the easy part. What should be of greater concern is the heterozygous carriers of the autoflower trait and their potential to become fixated in a small Ne. It could take literally hundreds of generations to get rid of those crap alleles and that kind of genetic pollution is hardly worth the risk.

country boy
06-13-2006, 10:31 AM
Cuz-i didn't get that he was breeding, only trying to get some decent mothers.
And from the list he gave-it looks like it's a crap shoot...basically, that #'s game...
FYI-i've just got a hard on for auto-flowering (and hermies)...seems Vic's guarantee, bit me in the ass...more than once...

Smith are those RS's F1's or F2's?

Curious:any info on RS being 'true breeding'? i thought it was a WW crossed to a 'soul sister'?

cb

Agent-Smith
06-13-2006, 03:11 PM
hey CB, I'm not sure what generation they are, and no I don't plan to use them for breeding. If people I gift clones to want to breed them then fine but I just don't have the room or the time right now to mess with that. CB you were right, I am just looking for some MILFs! :D

clips
06-13-2006, 10:25 PM
im partial the blue baloney as per a friends grow :kisses: hope he dont mind me snaggin one his pics hehehe no ill intent meant but here's his shot of his grow of blue baloney :worthy: hope he dont mind either tis some tasty vittles :kind: flowers 58-60 days .enjoy and ill chat ya later clips

Lothar of the Hill People
06-13-2006, 11:00 PM
Hiya clips - great to see you!

Check out my latest favorite strain... :D






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clips
06-13-2006, 11:08 PM
kewl beans lothar :woohoo: ,ya know many told me the mother that started most my breeding efforts was a ugly duckling . glad she has spawned some goodness .enjoy be safe and ill chat ya later clips

meloyelo
06-13-2006, 11:27 PM
Curious:any info on RS being 'true breeding'? i thought it was a WW crossed to a 'soul sister'?
CB thats exactly what vapor said: white widow X cafe girl. cafe girl aka gingerale.
-melo

Cuzin_Dave
06-14-2006, 08:25 AM
The Grimm White Widow side of Rosetta Stone is fairly true breeding by today's standards. Look at this way, the male part of the breeding equation had much work done on it, while the female was a select female clone from the Sensi Seeds Jack Herer line. Think of it as a semi stable hybrid cross with a great deal of potential for enhancement.

Agent-Smith
06-14-2006, 09:23 AM
Very nice pics Clips! I'll try your Baloney Blue next time. Any insider info on it....flowering times, etc.?

You guys are really getting me excited to start those rosetta stone beans! :teeth:

Stevus
06-14-2006, 10:11 AM
Well, you heard Agent-Smith, what are your opinons? I know I'll get shit, but what about Big Bud for a beginner? What are good strains for a beginner? I'm looking for nice yields, with a fair amount of THC. Please let me know,
-Stevus

Cuzin_Dave
06-14-2006, 10:27 AM
Yes, you should not delay starting your Rosetta Stone seeds.Pray for a breeding pair and NEVER cross them with autoflower shit from Breeder Steve if you have any respect for the plant.

marigyp
06-14-2006, 06:29 PM
Big Bud!? What a joke that varietal is! You will get big buds with only a "fair" amount of thc allright. Big Bud is a waste of time in our opinion based on two seperate grows. Potency rated at 5 on the ten scale at best. Why grow average crap? Reef's WilliamsWonder x Mango is a excellent yielder of above average smoke an 8, JoeyWeed's C99xA11 way above average smoke a 8.5 and a good yeilder, but it is not commercial grade as it has very little odor, just a little citrus.

bopper
07-07-2006, 04:56 AM
Hey clips,

That blue baloney is just beautiful. :sun:

Could you please tell us a bit of the origin and effect of that fine specimen? :cool2:

Best,

bopper

CottonBalls
07-07-2006, 05:34 AM
I find myself in the same situation....what to grow next.
I have ... umm....a few hundred strains I *could* start, but am undecided.

Front runners I'm looking at, every one is from seed, I have no clones and Thorax is currently shut down and can only help me on the bean front.

Blue Sattelite 2.2 (straight from Steve)
Blockhead (from Steve again)
Farmers choice (my buddies want that sweet assed grapefruit taste and have been begging)
TFD x VT F2 (from Thorax) unsure about this one, I know it'll hermie but it's stout herb
Super Silver Haze x Aloha White Widow (from Sorter via Thorax)
Hashplant x Black Widow (from Cabbageman via Thorax)
Orange Spice (from Dman)

Now, I've had a superb Blue Sattelite, but it was chosen clone from a large array, it was excellent but I don't know starting from beans....is it that good as a general rule?
I've smoked uber potent Blockhead....I've never grown it myself....gimme input here.
Farmers Choice just fucking rocks in the flavor dept and is potent, I know this for fact having grown it numerous times in the past.
The TFD x VT Thorax shared with me kicked my ass, very strong pot but the taste was lacking.
SSH x AWW I have no idea about....anyone heard anything about this one?
HP x BW was strong but lacking in flavor, it was rock solid nuggage that may have been better if dried/cured correctly (I didn't grow it).
Orange spice, I dunno....clue me in.

BravoC.D.
07-07-2006, 05:48 AM
i'm already eyeing that sshxaww. i gave h2l my hpxbw and the rest i donated to an auction. never heard back from H2L go figure huh anywho enjoy the grow cottonballs, bravo

mtn grown
07-07-2006, 04:12 PM
hey agent smith,i missed this thread and i know its a little late,but...
the blockhead f2 should be fun to look through,i had a pack of f1's and passed them to a friend looking for a good pain relief strain.
the lui x nl sounds like a good one too,and ofcourse the bubblisious and blue baloney would be good choices.
i got my fingers crossed for a fem outa the RS.
dont know where the ssh x aww came up but it stretches like a mo-fo.i started mine at 12/12 from seed and still had 4'+ plants.the ssh was way dominant,as haze usualy seems to be.very good herb though

Agent-Smith
07-07-2006, 04:34 PM
thanks mtn. Of all the beans I have, baloney Blue and Blockhead will be my next endeavors. I here the blockhead is super potent and the Baloney Blue is great for pain and migraine relief (for arty). :teeth:

clips
07-07-2006, 05:44 PM
"finger cheese with every nug " my motto fer the bluebaloney or the baloney blue .now the difference on either is which parents were used the blue baloney is made up of a stoneybaloney/.75% g13nl line female to a bluewidow male the baloney blue is a stb/13 f-3 male to a bluewidow female ive had for over 4 years via ismdl back at ssc tis a narcotic mum there ;) both have similiar traits and both flower 58-63 days enjoy and ill chat ya later clips

note.. stoneybaloney is a stonpony creation of tangerine/c99/kali then was bred by weso to a ncga .75% g13nl line .. just fer knowledge sakes